Comment on Should Australian cities adopt car-free days? - ABC listen

• unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I haven’t read the article and it doesn’t look like you have either. But what I gather is they’re not trying to shut down the M1 in Brisbane every Saturday. They’re just suggesting closing some busy roads for markets and festivals to encourage people to use public transport. I don’t drive in the CBD and my experience is only really with Brisbane so I’m not really against the idea. But of course public transport needs to catch up, the trains in SEQ are ridiculously slow but the buses are actually quite good, of course we need more of them and bigger ones. Personally, I don’t see how this has anything to do with being in an echo chamber. Failing to provide a good argument against one supported by an alleged “echo chamber” only serves to embolden the “echo chamber”. So really you should be thanking yourself for reinforcing the echo chamber.

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  • Wooki@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The podcast premise is born in false equivalence of Australian cities to the NY and other utter massive cities. That’s straight out of the gate. I stopped there.

    “Failing to provide a good argument “

    There is NO argument to be had here it’s blatantly obvious why it’s bad and this type of delusion perpetuates a very dangerous delusion. But hey rule ban dissent away

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    • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      people die when roads are closed

      lol what a lazy troll. No they don’t. Fewer people die when you take away one of the biggest killers.

      And please don’t come back at me with the obvious troll response here. You and I already both know how much of a blatant straw man it is.

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      • Wooki@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks for proving my point, dangerously delusional

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    • unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I will keep it simple, people die when roads are closed

      Is that not an argument?

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      • Wooki@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It is, for obvious username colour. You can see where this group devolves this discussion into, outside this thread from “ban cars in cities” to: “ban cars outright”. It perpetuates an ideology born for very high density and very high populations with functional, accessible, affordable, public transport. A fictional triad in Australia & really fictional to cities “in whole”. As a result it spreads the ideology that removing transportation isn’t dangerous which it very much is why city planners have heart attacks closing roads. The net effect of removing “cars”: people die.

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