Comment on Should Australian cities adopt car-free days? - ABC listen
Wooki@lemmy.world 11 months agoIt is, for obvious username colour. You can see where this group devolves this discussion into, outside this thread from “ban cars in cities” to: “ban cars outright”. It perpetuates an ideology born for very high density and very high populations with functional, accessible, affordable, public transport. A fictional triad in Australia & really fictional to cities “in whole”. As a result it spreads the ideology that removing transportation isn’t dangerous which it very much is why city planners have heart attacks closing roads. The net effect of removing “cars”: people die.
unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 11 months ago
The reason I called you out was because you didn’t give an argument, not because I disagree, or it goes against the “popular view”. Are you arguing that you have been unfairly targeted?
Wooki@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“Are you arguing that you have been unfairly targeted?” No, it was a borderline response. However very intentional as the alternative is proven where any “discussion” degrades to in the other thread with OP as I noted above would happen. OP has no interest having any discussions on the merits of closing one street for a market as does this podcast. It’s disingenuous to achieve one outcome: ban all cars.
unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 11 months ago
I am aware that the OP has an anti-car and pro-cyclist stance, they’re entitled to their opinion. That other thread (I assume you’re referring to the one branched off of this one) is rather unpleasant to read. And the problem is you are arguing over what you both assume your arguments to be immutable facts, when in reality neither of you are posting any sources to back up your claims making conversation impossible.
Personally, I believe that we are at least 10 years away from being able to realise a mostly car-free city in Australia, since we need infrastructure to catch-up as well as places outside the city e.g. Eight Mile Plains Bus station south of Brisbane where people commuting from semi-rural areas (like me) can park to get a bus or a train which is faster than sitting in traffic for an hour. We need services to be fast, often and reliable so people use them due to actual benefit.
Wooki@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s far simpler than that. Where is it in place, why and how right now (ignoring effectiveness). None apply to Australia, we will never have both the population or geographical size/density required for our cities to implement this in any meaningful manner within the next generation