Comment on Windows 12 May Require a Subscription

• IHawkMike@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s not hard to believe that MS would “give” out a free (read: ad-laden) version of Windows, with various features enabled depending on tier of subscription.

  Except that already have that with the Enterprise/SA tier and have for a long time. Sure, Pro is still required but it’s typically an OEM license included in the cost of the hardware.

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• circuscritic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Those are typically grey market keys, and subject to being voided.

  Not saying it’s not a good deal, or not worth the small risk, just that those aren’t true retail prices.

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• muddybulldog@mylemmy.win ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It eludes me why people purchase these grey market products over just running unactivated. They’re not valid licenses, they just overcome the technical limitations of non-activation. Generally speaking, you’re supporting criminal enterprise for the sake of being able to change your wallpaper.

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  • billiam0202@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    tRUth hUrtS

    StackSocial’s parent company, StackCommerce, is listed as a partner with Microsoft, so they’re probably legit. Speaking for myself, the Win 11 key and two Office keys I’ve bought before haven’t had any problems.

    Two things that boggle my mind:

    1. In a thread where the discussion is about Microsoft possibly giving away a “free” future version of Windows and monetizing features, someone thinks it unlikely that Microsoft could sell Windows now at a loss hoping to push Office 365 and OneDrive subs, and

    2. That some people feel such a sense of entitlement they’ll go to fantastic lengths to not pay for services or products they use. They think that just because they decide a movie, or album, or operating system is too expensive they can can acquire it without paying for it. (Not you obviously, since the nagware version of Windows is technically free, just… other people).

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    • muddybulldog@mylemmy.win ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Two thoughts on StackSocial. Even if they legitimately are an MS partner that bar is so low as to be irrelevant. I know, I’m an MS Partner. All it takes is an email address and two (maybe three) checkboxes to become a Partner at the lowest levels. Additionally, the product isn’t actually being sold by SS. the vendor is “SmartTrainingLab” which appears to only exist in the context of selling cheap keys via Stack Social and it’s clone, other clone, e-commerce sites.

      As for selling Windows at a loss… They’ve always been split-brained on that front. They only just stopped giving away free upgrades to Windows 10/11 in the past few weeks despite that offer having expired over seven years ago. The real Windows Desktop OS money has historically been from the fees that OEMs pay for licensing. That’s why the retail price is so high; it establishes the baseline from which OEM discounts get negotiated. The $199 actually is pretty reasonable considering inflation, etc. Windows 3.1 was $149, Windows 95 was $209 and Windows NT 4.0, which current Windows is descended from, was $319. I wouldn’t even pretend to know what they’re going to do on that front but a subscription service seems highly possible, though I see it most likely being bundled as part of the Microsoft 365 products; you get the upgrades for “free” with one of the (product formerly known as) Office 365 consumer subscriptions OR you get ad-laden upgrades for free OR you pay $99 upgrade pricing.

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• zaph@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They’ve also already got the embedded ads feature ready to run in windows.

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• Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And Microsoft doesn’t care. Because the profit made off a single person’s license is nothing. That is why they have never cared how many people called to unlocked FEED-BEEF-1234-5678. They know we all got that off dc++ and they don’t care because, again, the goal is to get corporate sales.

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