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• hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Biking in the Netherlands, you regularly see people with different mobility devices riding in the bike lanes. That’s because bike lanes are also for people with mobility issues. The “anti-car is ableist” argument is actually itself ableist because a lot of people with mobility issues actually can’t drive either. Continued investment in car infrastructure vs bike infrastructure traps these people at home.

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• art@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you gave a shit about people with mobility issues you’d know how dumb that statement is.

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• Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Last year, my sister had her driver’s license suspended because of a medical condition, but she’s still perfectly capable of riding a bike. But the problem is our societal assumption of cars-for-all-whether-you-like-it-or-not means her neighborhood street design is extremely hostile to her getting around by bike safely, and it’s way too sprawling and car-dependent to walk anywhere. There’s also no public transit within a reasonable walking distance.

  So I might ask you: Do you believe people like my sister deserve the same right to mobility as the rest of us? If so, why support a system that make life actively hostile to her and people like her? You act as if disabilities are a monolith, and that cars are only ever their saviors, as if cars are never the thing making life actively more difficult for many people.

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• grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What a pathetic attempt at trolling.

  First of all, nothing I wrote was ableist and you fucking know it.

  Second, you say that as if subsidizing cars isn’t itself ableist, since there are plenty of disabled folks who can’t drive and therefore rely on infrastructure that accommodates alternatives like transit and walking.

  In reality, subsidizing biking doesn’t affect the disabled in any way (except possibly to help them by encouraging better lanes and ramps that can be used by both bicycles and wheelchairs). In contrast, further subsidizing car-centrism very much hurts them and you damn well know it.

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• mrpants@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Car infra is the most ableist thing in transportation you idiot.

  Try being vision impaired and driving. Try being in a wheelchair and getting down the average American street. Try having a limp and crossing a large intersection in 20 seconds. Try being an entirely able bodied person and getting to the other side of a highway that cuts through your city.

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