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• FluffyPotato@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m not saying that, just that there’s no outside way of verifying if something is true or not in case of morals. I don’t believe objective morals exist because you can’t find a single moral stance shared among all of humanity not because you can’t measure the truth of that stance.

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  • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is suffering good or bad? I don’t mean that in a specific context, but any type of suffering in itself.

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    • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I can’t really say about all kinds of suffering, it really depends on context.

      It’s like asking if all love is good. There are so many situations I can imagine it could be good or bad or even neutral.

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      • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        With out of context I mean in it’s nature. Imagine you have to cut off someone’s leg who doesn’t like pain and won’t profit from experiencing it during the amputation now or in the future, is it better to do it in the way it causes the most pain or the way it causes less pain, when it leads to exactly the same result?

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• robo@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So you think pain is real?

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    • robo@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Exactly, physical pain and other forms of suffering are an objective reality. You can, in theory at last, decide objectively whether any decision will lead to more or less pain immediately and in the future.

        If you look at ethics you could assume the only axiom it has is that when comparing more pain or less pain, less pain is better. This is even independent from circumstance if you consider all suffering now and in the future that are consequences of an observed decision.

        In my opinion that makes the decision whether something is morally bad or good objective in it’s nature.

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