Comment on There's a big misconception about mobile phones and driving, and it's putting us at risk

• naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  it’s already illegal you goose. People still use phones while driving. Safety needs to be designed into things, you can’t fine it into existence.

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  • UlyssesT@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    it’s already illegal

    What is your answer to that? Do nothing else?

    you goose

    smuglord

    Safety needs to be designed into things, you can’t fine it into existence.

    Fines and regulations and especially taxes do shape behavior and always have, “you goose.”

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    • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do you not see me arguing for phones to lock features when in cars or whatever elsewhere?

      We have been increasing penalties for phones, we have deployed automated surveillance cameras that issue fines for using a phone at lights, it’s not working making it double triple illegal wont do jack shit.

      There are rapidly diminising returns with severity of punishment, separation between punishment and action, and perception of not getting caught.

      Unless you want to live in a totalitarian surveillance state where cops can wank to live feeds from our vehicles we need to put the responsibility on the makers of the stupid distraction boxes and toddler crushing machines by using regulations to make the devices safer.

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      • thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        could you enforce that though? just drive an older car and/or don’t pair your phone to the stereo.

        Education campaigns could help, as you say it’s the responsibility of the end user here, but I just think tech-gated solutions won’t get us far enough, if at all.

        We’re already in a totalitarian surveillance state tbh, we’re talking about what to do with our personal surveillance devices while we operate heavy machinery, most of which is fitted with dashcams as well

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      • UlyssesT@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Unless you want to live in a totalitarian surveillance state

        There it is.

        “DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO” brain always goes there when the treat flow seems to be inconvenienced.

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