Comment on There's a big misconception about mobile phones and driving, and it's putting us at risk

• UlyssesT@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “If it isn’t 100% mitigation then nothing should be done lol” very-intelligent

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  • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    it’s already illegal you goose. People still use phones while driving. Safety needs to be designed into things, you can’t fine it into existence.

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    • UlyssesT@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      it’s already illegal

      What is your answer to that? Do nothing else?

      you goose

      smuglord

      Safety needs to be designed into things, you can’t fine it into existence.

      Fines and regulations and especially taxes do shape behavior and always have, “you goose.”

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      • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Do you not see me arguing for phones to lock features when in cars or whatever elsewhere?

        We have been increasing penalties for phones, we have deployed automated surveillance cameras that issue fines for using a phone at lights, it’s not working making it double triple illegal wont do jack shit.

        There are rapidly diminising returns with severity of punishment, separation between punishment and action, and perception of not getting caught.

        Unless you want to live in a totalitarian surveillance state where cops can wank to live feeds from our vehicles we need to put the responsibility on the makers of the stupid distraction boxes and toddler crushing machines by using regulations to make the devices safer.

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• samson@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Banning stuff does stop it, see Hitler (existing) or horses on highways.

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• AnagrammadiCodeina@feddit.it ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It helps, the world isn’t white or black. Many people stops doing things because those things are illegal. Then I agree that there will always be some people doing the bad and some people doing the good regardless of the law.

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  • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    phone usage is already illegal. Obvs more is necessary

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    • UlyssesT@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      phone usage is already illegal. Obvs more is necessary

      That’s a self-own if I ever saw one.

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• unoriginalsin@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah. Shouldn’t even bother with laws against murder. Doesn’t stop people killing each other.

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• Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What is this libertarian nonsense

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