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TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

I am accusing the cisgender men at the conference of lying about their gender and I am accusing people in this thread of playing coy about the fact that is trivial for someone who 100% sees themselves as a man to tick F rather than M on a form if that will get them an advantage. Especially if they think being transgender happens on a whim.

If they are transphobic, they even get to discredit actual trans people while they take advantage of an opportunity that wasn’t intended for them. It wouldn’t be the first time transphobic people pretend to be trans just to cause problems.

You did read my comment, I hope. Do you truly believe there are more transgender women and non-binary people than cisgender women in tech, to the point they would outnumber them?

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serial_crusher@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

I am accusing the cisgender men at the conference of lying about their gender

Wait, this is confusing. Cisgender man would mean they identify as men. But if they were lying about their gender… are you accusing them of secretly being women?

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- TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I don’t see how you could misunderstand what I said. If that wasn’t clear enough, the part right after that clarifies your question plenty. At this point I think are trying to deliberately create confusion and start an argument.
  
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Otome-chan@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
How do you distinguish between the people who genuinely identify as nonbinary and those who are dishonestly doing it?

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- neshura@bookwormstory.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  identify
  
  See the “problem” with the entire ordeal is this right there, self-identification will always be abusable by people who are willing to lie. There is no solution to that problem I can think of that doesn’t piss someone off hard.
  
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cricket97@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
What if they’re not transphobic but rather just taking advantage of the less competitive playing field cough cough

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- TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Drop the cough and dogwhistles. This is not about trans people and whatever wildly overblown fearmongering you are itching to bring up.
  
  This is about men being smartasses.
  
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  - cricket97@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It’s actually about how there is no ability for biological women to police their own spaces anymore.
    
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  - Otome-chan@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    If they're amab and self identifying as nonbinary, they'd be transgender by definition.
    
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