Comment on Microsoft’s Nadella to Testify at Google Antitrust Trial Monday - Bloomberg

realharo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• sfgifz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If Mozilla exists only at Google’s pleasure it should either reform or die. As far as Google is concerned Firefox is just a useful tool to avoid anti-competitive regulations because they can claim that an alternative browser engine that isn’t directly influenced by Google exists.

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  • Engywuck@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The poor CEO should then lower her 5M paycheck…

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• lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s not (just) about paying to have Google Search as default, it’s also about cases where competing offers can’t go through or where they leverage other methods.

  in Microsoft’s case they failed even though they were willing to pay more or even provide Apple with their own search engine.

  Google also holds their Android trademark and access to Google Play and Google services as a sword hanging above the heads of everybody in the Android ecosystem. Step out of line and you’re effectively booted from the ecosystem.

  If you like irony remember Huawei, whose ejection from the Android platform was a textbook example of how much power Google holds over OEM; but it won’t come up at this trial because it was done at the request of the US government so that’s OK.

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• MagneticFusion@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I pray to god no. And if that does become the case, they will probably get hit with another antitrust lawsuit for having the browser engine monopoly. That will be the literal last thing Google would want right after their search engine gets toasted

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  • bamboo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I doubt a a court would care about a browser engine monopoly. They’re more concerned with markets and money, not with technical implementation details or open standards. Besides, even if that were to happen, google can point to Safari which is a different implementation with a very large market share.

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    • lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Safari is locked behind Apple devices so it’s irrelevant outside that particular garden. The most they could use the Safari argument for is to say Google doesn’t have a monopoly on Apple devices.

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      • bamboo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        In the US, it seems that courts do not care about “on Apple devices”. They see two markets: mobile devices, and laptops/desktops. Blink based browsers make up a minority in the US on mobile devices due to the dominance of Apple, and while they do have the majority on desktops/laptops, Safari is still double digits and Firefox has a small slice of the pie as well. Even if that was enough, there would still need to be evidence that this is due to anti-competitive measures and not true user preference. This will be hard because Microsoft isn’t publicly being compensated for choosing Blink for edge, nor does google have any wide-scale measures to coerce users onto chrome other than marketing in their own products and services.

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