Comment on Lemmy instances that are focused on mirroring Reddit content?

Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• rglullis@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah, I know of lemmit but AFAIK it has the opposite ideas in many cases:

  • It seems to be archiving the most popular instances, not so much the niche ones
  • It is going to mirror posts only, not the discussion.
  • All posts are created by the same bot account, so we lose information about the original content.

  I wonder if the dev from lemmit would be interested in being the host of some of the “fediversed” communities, so that we can have comments as well.

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  • willya@lemmyf.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You have it follow whatever instance you want it to follow. There’s a request community that you post to and it’s then added to the queue.

    I don’t understand the point of this at all. Might be a fun project for you to do, but nobody wants a bunch of communication set before them that you can’t interact with. It doesn’t help this grow at all.

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    • rglullis@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s a request community that you post to and it’s then added to the queue.

      But only the posts, while I want to have all of the conversation, comments included.

      Might be a fun project for you to do, but nobody wants a bunch of communication set before them that you can’t interact with.

      What if I told you that I started working on this precisely because some of the people who were active on /r/emacs wanted to leave reddit but would also like to support those coming with questions? With this tool we can see the content on Lemmy, respond on Lemmy and (WIP) end up notifying the original asker on reddit.

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      • willya@lemmyf.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ll definitely check it out if you follow through with it. I just can’t envision wanting a link to Reddit at all anymore.

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  • erlend_sh@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Something a bit similar to what lemmit is already doing, but more powerful with your addition of comments: read-only, best-of archives of really old content from popular subs.

    10-5 year old askreddit posts for instance would be interesting blasts from the past to read today. Isn’t there already a ‘best of Reddit’ convention on Reddit itself that resurfaces such content from time to time?

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  • Spzi@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wait, you’re intending to use multiple bots, so users have to block multiple spammers?

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    • rglullis@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You are fixated on the bots. Don’t worry about them. The bot accounts are only needed to have a way to get people on reddit to migrate.

      The real point here is that this tool is as spammy as the admin of mirror instances. It’s the admin that sets:

      • which subreddits to pull data from
      • which lemmy communities to push data to
      • what posts from what subreddits to push to.

      What people are failing to understand: the last point is not automated. The idea is not to get the firehose from reddit and unleash it on Lemmy. The idea is mostly to bring some automation to the process that I’ve been doing on all the different lemmy communities already where I was (a) browsing reddit just to seed content here and (b) sending DMs to people on reddit to let them know about the lemmy alternative.

      Let me repeat: you will not see a flood of posts from bots coming from alien.top or any “fediverser” instance.

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      • Spzi@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The real point here is that this tool is as spammy as the admin of mirror instances.

        I agree that technically the person using the bots is to blame, while I only ever see the bots, and never a person behind them. I don’t see what that changes about their behaviour though. You clarified the bots are not acting autonomously, a human decides how much they spam. I still have a problem with too much spam.

        Let me repeat: you will not see a flood of posts from bots coming from alien.top or any “fediverser” instance.

        How can you be so sure? We have precedent of bots making 800k posts per month. Apparently, bot admins exist who use these tools indiscriminately. Numbers go up, I guess.

        What measures do you as the creator take to prevent abuse? How can you prevent abuse, once another person gets their hands on it?

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