Comment on Someone Forked Systemd to Strip Out Its Age Verification Support

• belazor@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is the most sane take I’ve read in this entire debacle. Between arguing the semantics of attestation vs verification and whether we need five hundred forks and PRs, I’m glad to read this.

  The biggest mistake the original PR did was not make it more clear it’s not directly because of the laws themselves, it’s to support higher level systems that may want to or need to comply. Systemd is no more complying with any present or future laws than a keyboard manufacturer is violating the law if the user uses it to type racially motivated hate speech.

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• Bloefz@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I would but I’ve always been opposed to systemd anyway.

  But for me it’s a slippery slope I don’t think we should even get on.

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  • ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    But for me it’s a slippery slope I don’t think we should even get on.

    I agree. But the start of the slope isn’t my exit point. My exit point is just before the slope gets too steep to get off.

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    • RiceBowl@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s the thing about slippery slopes. You don’t really know where the point you slip is.

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  • socsa@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah I hated systemd since before it was cool to hate systemd again.

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• magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Distros will push a dob of 1970-1-1, marks my fucking words.

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  • ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s still forcing a DOB, which is the line I won’t cross.

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    • magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      When you make a new user using adduser and you leave your full name, number, and room number?

      Blank is blank, epoch is functionally the same as leaving it blank.

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• Blemgo@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That is a valid point. Of course it still would be rather anonymised, but it could always be a ‘frog in the pot’ type situation, where most drastic changes are introduced very slowly. My main concern at the end of the day is how much info will be required to be given to services and how much data will be actually stored. If it’s anonymised, then I don’t see much of a threat. If a service requires me to fully identify for an age check, that’s an entirely different thing, especially considering the last of Discord’s data leaks.

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