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• silverneedle@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think your values are sociopathic and destructive

  I’d like to carefully disagree here. If someone took a friend from me, or abused them terribly without any apology, I would want them to die. I think this is a very empathetic and prosocial reaction which is not at all sociopathic. Think of the time female bonobos brutally killed a member of their cohort for killing a defenseless baby that truly couldn’t act in its own interest.

  What is sociopathic however is that we salute them troops because they keep the country safe by squashing alleged threats. Only a minority stands to benefit from what we currently consider good, those who make the world work in concrete terms will never meet those beneficiaries. Workers have their lives exhausted and brains forcefed with shit for a section of people that would forever remain abstract to them. A prosocial reaction by workers would spell Armageddon on the current state of the world, and believe me, that is most likely what you are pointing towards but still are too scared to consider the full implications of.

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  • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’d like to carefully disagree here. If someone took a friend from me, or abused them terribly without any apology, I would want them to die.

    Viewing friends and family as property and becoming angry and violent when someone violates your perceived property is perfectly in line with sociopathy. Most humans care about others, because they feel empathy, even for people who they have never met and have no connection to, heck, even towards creatures entirely unlike us.

    Have you been a victim of abuse or trauma? Did you have an abusive or neglectful childhood?

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    • silverneedle@lemmy.ca ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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      Oh snap, what is this?!?! You psychopath!

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    • silverneedle@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      your perceived property

      You are insinuating that I view people as property. Nice attempt at an inversion. That is not the case, I consider anyone a friend that I am one being with. Friends can only be the people that you sync up with, I’m sure you’d agree.

      Have you been a victim of abuse or trauma?

      To the untrained reader this is an especially effective rhetoric tactic to attack the person you are talking with. You go show everybody how insane or mentally unstable I am for having merely having read those theoreticians of the 19th century and applying the knowledge. Please read what Mr. Marx wrote in the last edition of the Neue Rheinische Zeitung (and all of his other works, along with those of Bakhunin, Kropotkin, Lassalle, Luxemburg and so on. Extra points for reading every little critique people had against any theorist).

      • To answer your question: I had a loving childhood

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      • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think you misunderstand, I have already written off the original discussion we had, and I was just trying to help you learn about yourself. There is nothing to be ashamed of, I am not trying to discredit you or undermine your arguments in any way, I don’t really need to do that, nor do I care to. I think my arguments are extremely persuasive and stand very well on their own terms.

        I was genuinely trying to help you. Sociopaths often do not realize that they are sociopathic or that they are thinking of people as being property, they don’t generally understand or interrogate the source of their own feelings because emotional intelligence was never properly modelled for them in childhood. That isn’t their fault, and it doesn’t make them inherently bad people.

        Anyways, I am going to step away from this discussion now, and again wish you all the best, much love and solidarity.

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