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DLS@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

If you scroll down on the privacy and security policy, there is a section that says they record you with audio and video while you are in their stores and parking lots and provide that to advertisers, partners, subsidiaries, and law enforcement. Your reaction to the original commenter feels a little extreme.

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mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
In addition to my first comment response.

What you’re calling “extreme” is simply direct pushback without the usual padding people have come to expect. That padding, hedging, soft language, pretending both sides might have a point, is exactly why misinformation keeps spreading unchecked. It creates the illusion that facts are negotiable.

Now, if the goal is to gently reassure everyone and avoid discomfort, then yes, a softer tone would be more appropriate. But that approach routinely fails to correct anything. It prioritizes feelings over accuracy.

If the goal is to actually challenge bad information in a way that’s unambiguous and difficult to misinterpret, then a firmer tone is not only justified, it’s necessary. You don’t have to like the delivery. But dismissing it as “extreme” avoids engaging with the actual issue, whether the claim being challenged holds up. If it doesn’t, then tone becomes a secondary concern.

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- DLS@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I find it an extremely response without ensuring what you say is correct. Context matters.
  
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mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Every single retail store in the known first world does this. They have cameras in their stores that record video and audio. They collate data about sales and if you have an account they’ll link it to your name.

I don’t know what part of the world you’re from but here in the states we have a chain called Kroger and if you want discounts you got to put your phone number into their system. That tracks everything that you do for marketing purposes.

This has been going on since the dawn of retail.

What the person above is describing isn’t that.

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- DLS@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I have not read Krogers security and privacy policy, but if Kroger was recording me without my consent and providing that to advertisers I would like to know. So I appreciate the initial commenter bringing this to our attention. Also even if this behavior is prevalent, I don’t think it should be dismissed.
  
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  - Turret3857@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    Just out of curiosity I did check
    
    Kroger’s Privacy Policy
    
    in select Texas stores we may collect biometric information such as a facial recognition data, when you enter our stores for security purposes, to protect the health and safety of our customers and associates, and to prevent, investigate, and prosecute shoplifting, fraud, and other criminal activities. We provide notice at the point of entry in locations where we collect biometric information.
    
    So, only in Texas and theyre supposedly not trying to hide it ? at least for facial recognition. ALPR isn’t specifically mentioned in Kroger’s privacy policy, although this line implies it’s not entirely off the table
    
    Sensory data such as CCTV recordings from our facilities or premises or photos. Some of our cameras may capture license plate data for security purposes, to protect the health and safety of our customers and associates, and to prevent, investigate, and prosecute shoplifting, fraud, and other criminal activities. We may record your voice when you contact our customer service centers.
    
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