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Comment on Australia’s Teen Social Media Ban Is Just Training A Generation In The Art Of The Workaround

BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

You fundamentaly misunderstand the issue with it. Nobody needs to collect IDs of every single adult to prevent kids from buying cigarettes or alcohol. Yet that’s what is happening with social media and “adult” content as they are convenient vectors to justity invasive data collection.

I would support a complete ban for everyone as it would eliminate the data collection, but since this not about kids, but about that data collection in the first place that will never happen.

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misk@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Nobody needs to collect your ID when they sell you alcohol but they need to see it.

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- BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Showing physical ID is not the same as storing digital record, which can be tracked, correlated and leaked at any time due to other people incopetence. More apt comparison would be to if you needed to provide a copy of your ID each time you went to buy cigarettes or alcohol.
  
  You only need to provide ID if you look younger than required age to buy cigarettes or alcohol not every single living person.
  
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  - misk@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    There are ways to do things anonymously while preserving actual checks against a central database, like with zero-knowledge proof.
    
    There’s a living person doing that check, which isn’t super practical for things online. Do I go to the nearest 7-11 to confirm my Pornhub login?
    
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    BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    It’s not full proof.
    
    Zero Knowledge Proofs Alone Are Not a Digital ID Solution to Protecting User Privacy
    
    The limits of zero-knowledge for age-verification
    
    There is a human element here too. Parents. Certain groups of people are constantly shouting that parent choices are not taken into consideration, yet they are happy with outsoursing their responsibilies on the rest of the population.
    
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