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Comment on Australia’s Teen Social Media Ban Is Just Training A Generation In The Art Of The Workaround

UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Why not remove all age restrictions then? I mean, you can get drunk or start smoking as a teen if you really want to. Yet many don’t, because is iconvenient.

And I also don’t buy this ‘kids get cut off’ shit at all. You can use Youtube without an account, no problem. You still have easy access to news and websites. You can still network with other people and join, for example, group chats or TS servers. Heck, it’s like, what? 10 Platforms that are (semi-)banned? Half of the people on earth grew up without social media at all, yet some people talk about this like it’s the air they breath.

That very fact just reinforces my suport for the ban a lot. If you really need social media, just go to the fediverse dammit. It is incidentally not banned and almost guaranteed to be better than the dataharvesting ragebait shitshow with gambling ads that’s mainstream social media these days.

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BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
You fundamentaly misunderstand the issue with it. Nobody needs to collect IDs of every single adult to prevent kids from buying cigarettes or alcohol. Yet that’s what is happening with social media and “adult” content as they are convenient vectors to justity invasive data collection.

I would support a complete ban for everyone as it would eliminate the data collection, but since this not about kids, but about that data collection in the first place that will never happen.

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- misk@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Nobody needs to collect your ID when they sell you alcohol but they need to see it.
  
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  - BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    
    Showing physical ID is not the same as storing digital record, which can be tracked, correlated and leaked at any time due to other people incopetence. More apt comparison would be to if you needed to provide a copy of your ID each time you went to buy cigarettes or alcohol.
    
    You only need to provide ID if you look younger than required age to buy cigarettes or alcohol not every single living person.
    
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    misk@piefed.social ⁨29⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    
    There are ways to do things anonymously while preserving actual checks against a central database, like with zero-knowledge proof.
    
    There’s a living person doing that check, which isn’t super practical for things online. Do I go to the nearest 7-11 to confirm my Pornhub login?
    
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