Comment on The forbidden topics of hacker communities

onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• ck_@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It refers to the hacker subculture in a rather broad sense I’d say, as in “People who enjoy fiddling and building stuff with computers / electronics adjacent”.

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  • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    🤔 IMO they aren’t forbidden, just off-topic. Most of the time they are allegations. Allegations are just that, allegations. Until a court has decided whether they are true or not, they should be taken as just that, allegations. It is undeniable that rape and assault allegations have more impact than most allegations.

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    • ck_@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What do I care if some person I don’t know is convicted or not convicted of a crime?

      That one is totally up to you. What you should care about is whether innocent people are suffering because or your action or inaction.

      The article talks about rape specifically, but many forms of abuse exist in communities, both online and offline. Only a fraction of them are prosecuted, but many of them cause real harm nonetheless.

      The thing is, you don’t have to remember the people or their stories, all you need to remeber is what is right and what is wrong, or what qualifies as a bad actor vsa good one, and then speak out in support of the good ones. So just two things to remember, way fewer than you have cousins I assume.

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      • jasory@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If we have insufficient information, how do we know that innocent people are actually being harmed, or if we do take action (the minimum action you seem to be advocating for is ostracism) against the accused how do we know that they are not the innocent ones?

        Are we really supposed to resort to broad statistics when making intimate decisions?

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