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Doomerism like this is not healthy. Things are dire and will get worse for a long time, but the idea that civilisation is guaranteed to collapse is the kind of doom propaganda that fuels inaction. There is so much we can do, and the outcome for future generations better with every positive step we take. What we do does matter, and there’s a good chance our core societies will still be going strong in 50 years.

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ashughes@feddit.uk ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I agree but would add that collapse isn’t an absolute end in itself and to frame it that way is boss-level doomerism. Collapse is an unavoidable part of a natural cycle that signals the beginning of a new cycle. It is an opportunity to plant the seeds of something better and watch it grow. That’s not to say collapse will be easy, comfortable or harmless but we open ourselves to far greater harm by fearing collapse.

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BrioxorMorbide@lemmings.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

the kind of doom propaganda that fuels inaction

And worse, the destructive “we have to exploit everything because it doesn’t matter anyway” attitude.

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0tan0d@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
A ray of hope: Oil being expensive makes solar more attractive. Having an EV and home solar insulated my family against the daily hike in the price of a gallon of gas.

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- bridgeburner@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Yeah but only wealthy people like you can actually switch to EVs and solar. Most people can’t afford an EV, and if they can, most of the time they have no place to charge it as a lot of people live in rented apartments and not in their own houses. So the majority of people are powerless when the oil gets more expensive, as they literally don’t have an alternative and have to suffer the higher costs.
  
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  - 0tan0d@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I just looked. The newest Nissan Leaf is $29,990 with a 300 mile range. That’s not too bad compared to the more popular Toyota rav4 @ $ 31,900. Its way better than I thought. I hear you on the plug issue but if you can make it work EVs are the way to go.
    
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