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Mika@piefed.ca 1 day agoUSA is not with Ukraine, if you imply that. Trump is a russian asset and he did lift sanctions from russia just this week, alongside with ramping oil prices to the roof.
Unless you assume that russia is losing the attrition war (which is very unlikely with @lemmy.ml), your comment doesn’t make any sense.
Transform2942@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
I do not have the patience to have this stupid fight today. Ukraine is definitely a US proxy. Every president since George W Bush has been eagerly promoting and escalating this war.
The war in Iran has sealed Ukraine’s fate. All the cards they had left to play have now been neutralized. It doesn’t matter how much propaganda you believe about this war because it’s coming to a rapid conclusion
ChristerMLB@piefed.social 1 day ago
Alright, I’ll bite. How does the war with Iran “seal Ukraine’s fate”?
Transform2942@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
3 factors:
The combined forces of the West were already losing before suffering this massive economic shock and gigantic military expenditure
ChristerMLB@piefed.social 17 hours ago
Those three are all real factors, but I think you are exaggerating their size and importance.
The increase in oil price and softening of US sanctions will benefit the Russians, but it won’t make the war economy sustainable.
Western armories are running bare, but the same is true for the Russian ones. Both Ukraine and Russia are mostly using equipment as it’s being produced, and both Ukraine and the rest of Europe has been ramping up production capacity. I imagine you’re right that it’s worse for Ukraine to lose access to American air defense systems than it is for Russia to lose access to Iranian Shaheds.
The high energy prices are a problem in Europe, but compared to the situation in Russia (or Ukraine, for that matter) there’s nothing EXTREME about it.
The reason peace negotiations have been hopeless, is because the Ukrainians and the Russians can’t agree on where the war is headed. The Russians believe that if they just keep going, the Europeans will get bored and give up, while Ukrainians believe that they can keep going longer than the Russians because they are supported by a European economy that is not in an unsustainable “war mode”.
Who is right is up to us, and given that every single demand that the Russians have is against some pretty fundamental international law, it is in the interest of future European peace to ensure that the Ukrainians are right - and to make that as obvious as possible to the Russians so that peace negotiations become possible.