Comment on Reason #72151 why I don't tolerate Neelix hate
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year agoOut of curiosity, which ones? I’m torn between Tuvok and Neelix for my favorite character. Hilariously, Tuvix is my least favorite character by a mile. I don’t agree with the whole “IT WAS MURDER” thing to begin with but I especially don’t care when Tuvix was trying to force himself in a bunch of situations that made everyone else uncomfortable.
TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Jetrel and Mortal Coil, of course. My fav Tuvok episode is probably Meld, but mainly because I loved the plot around Suder and the actor of Suder is great in general. I’ve got nothing against Tuvok, but I don’t really get Vulcans and their logic obly attitude. It’s why I thought the arc around Tuvix was interesting, but agreed, the character made a lot of folks very uncomfortable. Still, I think they should’ve used the transporter to “duplicate” Tuvix and devide the copy instantly back to Neelix and Tuvok. ^^
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
Oooo good choices. The “You killed my family/committed genocide! Of course fuck your medical expertise” episode and the “The afterlife isn’t real?” episode. Fucking STUNNING episodes. I’ve been rewatching Voyager and Mortal Coil played a couple of days ago. Always utterly captivating. Especially with poor Naomi asking about the forest after Neelix didn’t see it. Truly a heartbreaking episode.
Meld is also a fascinating episode. I’m a big fan of Vulcans so that episode was really great to see. A Vulcan revert to a sort of basic level of Vulcan. Their logic only attitude is derived, primarily, from a pants shitting level of fear that they’ll repeat the mistakes of the past. Vulcans used to be hyper violent and barbaric but logic helped them realign. The entire species seems to be collectively terrified of sliding back into that so they hold onto logic like a life vest. It’s a little tragic to be honest.
Also, I love that duplicator option simply because it actually makes the problem worse. Duplication is extremely hard to pull off but lets say they do. Now you’ve got two Tuvix. Both of them with the equal level of “I don’t want to die.” Now you have to make the same question of “Do I kill him?” but with the added level of “Which one do I kill?”
TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Glad you liked my picks. :)
Oh, I’m fully aware of the Vulcan “logic only” background, but to me watching them behave and act the way they do, I’d rather watch paint dry. ^^
Regarding the double Tuvix plot: It’s why you have to split the copy Tuvix the same second he’s being created. Not aware of wtf was going on, Tuvok and Neelix show up again and are like: “Who the hell is that lad?” :D
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
Also sorry if that came off as annoying in explaining something you already knew on Vulcans. More meant from the way I understand the character, not trying to overexplain. He says. Overexplaining. Sorry, anxiety and worry this morning are burning bad.
Your picks are indeed stellar. My Tuvok episodes are tied between Meld and Gravity, the one where we see Tuvok as a kid for a hot minute. Then again I just like seeing the explanation from the warp-9-level of sass he usually carries.
I’m just imagining the entire Tuvix duplication/split process causing the rest of the Doctors hair to fall out.
Oh yeah, Sybok was dope. I got way too excited when they name dropped him in Strange New Worlds. NEED MORE!
Infynis@midwest.social 1 year ago
I really liked the episode in the orbital lift as well. And I wish Suder had been in more episodes! He was so good!
TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Oh yes, Rise was fricking great, too!
FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Brad Dourif is awesome, I love his character in everything I’ve seen him in. His Babylon 5 episode was crazy good too.
constantokra@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Sudor’s arc is great. Have you seen Babylon 5? Because Brad Dourif plays a monk in ‘passing through Gethsemane’ and it’s also an excellent performance. Probably my favorite guest character in the series.
Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Goddamn I love that episode.
constantokra@lemmy.one 1 year ago
I’m not going to say it’s the best episode of the series, but when I try to think which one is, it’s always the first that comes to mind.
TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Yes, Bab5 is one of my favourite shows of all time and Dourif’s acting was on point. Same with Walter Koenig in each episode featuring Alfred Bester.
constantokra@lemmy.one 1 year ago
It’s amazing what Koenig did with that character in the limited time he got.