What alternatives? Please give an example?
Comment on Australia to temporarily ease fuel quality standards
SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 4 weeks agoI strongly disagree as there are alternatives to further torching our world further. This is another short-sighted solution to a problem that inevitably effects us, and we are going all in.
TheHolm@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
I doubt you are messaging in any good faith, but which aspect does that open ended question point to? I’m not going to give the history of the world as I know it!
My point is, we have not been good stewards of our environment and we knee jerk towards the most destructive path at all times. Find some evidence to the contrary and we will discuss.
TheHolm@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Nothing “knee-jerk” in it; it’s just pragmatic. The economy needs to run, and a strong economy is required to achieve any meaningful progress. The main problem is that many of “green” green lack knowledge (or pretend to lack knowledge) of the real world. They do tremendous damage to real “green” projects by advocating for “pipe dreams” instead of projects that could achieve something. Look at the anti-nuclear position of the “Green” party as an example (they should be pro-nuclear if they genuinely care about the environment). All their proposals are just hand-waving, which is unachievable and has no link to reality. And when you ask them, “What are the alternatives? Is there a real plan?” all you get are accusations or another “pipe dream”
SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Sorry, i think the greens have potential, but they do over do it, and the environment suffers due to stalled legislation as they are chasing something unrealistic.
But again, that doesn’t change my original point. As a country that should be a leader environmentally, we have completely failed. This is just a patch solution to a problem that we should have better planned for long ago. This is not the first fuel crunch.
Salvo@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
The answer is not for everyone to replace their Gas Guzzlers with Spark Guzzlers. The answer is better Public Infrastructure so humanity can be less dependant on any for if inefficient private transport.
The most efficient Hybrid is still a Diesel Locomotive and the most efficient EV is still an Electric suburban train.
SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Didn’t say every one gets electric cars. The worst damage will come from mining and industry. We seem to be having different convos