The vast majority of sexual assault is by people who know the victim, not random strangers. This is Uber trying to capitalize on fear to sell a more “premium” product they will inevitably charge more for, not actually helping anyone.
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ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t think anyone worth listening about anything would find this problematic. It ain’t women casually raping and killing, we all know that.
paultimate14@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
paultimate14@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I never claimed Uber was 100% safe. There’s also plenty of cases of non-sexual assault and robbery. There’s way more cases of simple negligent driving resulting in injury and death.
Uber’s own data indicates 99.9998% of trips in 2021-2022 were completed with no safety incident. Now if you want to discredit that self-reporting as biased, fair enough.
What would you say is the threshold for justifying gender segregation? 99.9999%? 99.99999%? 99.999999%?
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Whilst this is most likely true, I still think it’ll provide many anxious women some peace of mind and that might be enough.
paultimate14@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m sure a lot of anxious Nazi’s got a lot of peace of mind in the early 1940’s too.
I sure a lot of anxipis transphobes got a lot of peace of mind when Trump banned trans people from military service.
Giving anxious people peace of mind it’s the point of segregation. That doesn’t make it right or good.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Are you comparing being a woman, which means you’re comparatively less physically imposing and highly likely to be targeted by any immoral men, to Nazis?
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, we need fewer men in general.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Idk about that, chief.
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do you know anything? What’s your alternative?
ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
[deleted]ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Good call, lol. Idk if you’re actually racist or just very silly. 😅
Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t find this problematic, but umm… I’m just going to leave this here. And while I’m here, why not this… Oh, and this. And umm… this.
Men are statistically way more likely to commit violent and sexual crimes than women (i’m guessing but p sure), sure but um… Would you say “It ain’t white people who are casually killing each other’s gang members”? Gang violence is statistically more likely for people of some races… But would you say that’s a fair statement? And how is it different from your statement?
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s like 4 people, man, come on. Also, it is DRASTICALLY different, because the differences between the sexes are well documented and easily seen, what are the racial differences that cannot be explained by culture that result in some ethnicities being more dangerous than others? 🤔
Women have to be protected by men FROM other men, across cultures and time. Be real.
Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, it’s 4 people. What’s your point?
Great question. As a latino I have dark skin and brown hair and am therefore better at hiding in the shadows. It’s easier for someone to trip with me in the dark if I’m passed out drunk on the floor, possibly causing innocent people injury. This is a serious risk to society and we should be considered dangerous, especially in situations that involve alcohol.
Yes, that’s what men are for. We protect from the other -worse- men and whatever it is their women are telling them they need to do and they’ll fucking blindly do it cause yes we’re that dumb.
But also, can we agree we all have to be protected from assholes and ill meaning people, both women and men. Are bad people usually men? Idk maybe. Physical violence-wise, probably, tbh. Are all assholes men though? No, and I can give you at least 4 examples that prove this, but also, the ways that women with bad intentions get what they want is blatantly obvious to anyone who has met one. They get men to do their dirty work for them. Fell free to ask me for a paper or study on this.
Can’t we just speak of people who do horrible things instead of blanket scapegoating a <demographic>?
And you might say men created the system and men traumatize other men which causes more men to be violent and compete with other men to hurt more women and men… But the weird thing about causality and attribution is that it isn’t a linear path and the story ends wherever you arbitrarily choose it does.
Who were these men raised by? Who are more often than not the partners of these horrible men that allow them to commit their atrocities? If us men are all savages that will never have any sense of morality and are doomed to commit one atrocity after another, surely it’s the responsibility of the humans that aren’t monsters to reduce the harm we inevitably cause by existing. And what do women do in the face of this situation? Keep having sex with and producing more men. Thanks a lot, women… Thanks for not only having sex with the parents of the dudes that bullied me in high school, but also literally bringing them to this world and raising them with evil woman influence that brainwashed them into traumatizing me.
Ok so maybe I went just a little bit overboard but surely you understand my point. Can we not just talk about individuals that do horrible things? Cause if the problem is “men exist”, the solution is easy. Women should just stop having sex with us. No more men. Problem solved in 1 generation. If you wanna be faster you could do like the 4 ladies I linked though.
Wow, you got here? I’m surprised… and flattered tbh. thanks for reading and feel free to somehow imply me having a penis reduces my value as a human being.
For real, though. I’m sorry for all the horrible men. And sure, I
might beam an idiot and have opinions you find repulsive, but I know I’m not the only one genuinely doing the best I can to make the world nicer.ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
From one non-white man to another: you seem like a good hearted person, but I didn’t say all of that and you’re fighting windmills. I wish I could give you a longer reply but I’ve clocked in and I have to work, sadly. Take care, friend. 👋
liuther9@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The real question is who protects men from women??? Right! Nobody!
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nobody protected me from my wife and now I’m putting on nice clothes and changing my bedsheets more than once every 2 months. 😭
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
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Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I used questions to illustrate my point. My point was an invitation to reevaluate repeating a discourse that’s harmful to society. Not just men.
If you’d like me to be more explicit about the statement I’m suggesting or what I actually believe, I’m more than glad to rephrase and elaborate.
I believe doing blanket attributions of <horrendous acts> to any <members of a demographic> is tribalistic hate speech regardless of how statistically likely the demographic is to commit them.
Humans are more than the demographics they belong to and we all have the ability to choose our own paths no matter where we come from or how we were born. Reducing an entire population to <the ones that commit the atrocities> is not part of the problem, it is the problem.
No different than racism, elitism, classism or sexual discrimination. It’s just plain dehumanization, which doesn’t only lower the bar on the collective moral expectations over the group’s members effectively making the horrendous acts more likely, it breeds generalized distrust and erodes empathy in society as a whole.
When you reduce groups of people, each a human being with their own circumstances and fears and struggles and trauma and feelings to “those ppl that do that horrible thing” you strip the individuals of the group you might actually meet and interact with from the benefit of doubt, the possibility of being different from what you attribute and perpetuate the very dynamic you resent them for.
I feel like the questions were a more elegant (and succinct) approach, but to each their own.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Dude, it’s not that deep. Uber has a rapey problem and they figured out that this is the cheapest way to handle it.