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• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I have NPD, and I don’t like it when My disorder is shortened and used as the word to identify Me. I’m not a “N*rcissist”, I’m a person with NPD. Call Me a person, not a disorder.

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  • lmmarsano@group.lt ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are you making something not about yourself about yourself? That makes…perfect sense.

    Ironically, it might support the author’s point. Now I’ve to reexamine how much this explains other social media interactions.

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  • jarvis@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Serious question: isn’t the word separate from the disorder though?

    We can describe people doing antisocial, paranoid, or dependent things even when they don’t have the associated personality disorders. We can also describe someone generally as antisocial or paranoid if they display those traits regularly, regardless of any underlying diagnosis. Is it different with NPD?

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    • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The word “autism” originally came from psychiatrists’ perceptions that autistic people are preoccupied with ourselves. So if I say “My boss is so autistic, it’s disgusting”, is that okay? Etymologically, it’s valid. I’m not talking about a disorder. But I don’t think it’s an okay thing to say.

      When psychiatrists made narcissism a label to apply to vulnerable people, I think they made it off limits for casual comments. I’m careful about labelling people as antisocial or paranoid too. Those are serious words used for serious conversations about mental health. That means they can be dangerous in untrained hands. Think of those words like power tools. You don’t pick up a drill and start waving it around without the proper training and carefulness. That’s going to get someone hurt. These words have just as much destructive potential, so we need to treat them the same way.

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      • jarvis@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I appreciate the example and I think I see your point. I agree with the underlying logic, in general, but applying it to NPD seems an over extension.

        Dictionary definitions for the two terms, as records of common usage, are notably different. Autism refers solely to the condition so your example sentence would be an inappropriate use. Acceptable and understandable in the language, but an uncommon application of the word. On the other hand, narcissism is used for general egoism and self importance first and for NPD second.

        This of course doesn’t invalidate your feelings when hearing the word or desire to protect others from the same, but maybe this can offer some comfort if the most common usage is not intended or even understood as a slur or even a reference to folks with NPD.

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      • lmmarsano@group.lt ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s going to get someone hurt. These words have just as much destructive potential, so we need to treat them the same way.

        Offense isn’t harm: no one is getting hurt. You’re overstating the harm of expression by appealing to clinical language & understating the need for resilience & enough judgement to discern that in context, the word has a looser meaning. It’s a bit overdramatic.

        Moreover, conventional language doesn’t operate the way you suggest: there’s no such rule about psychiatrists & “off limits”. No one is obligated to share your opinion on this: it’s not fact.

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