Comment on 10% of Firefox crashes are caused by bitflips
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 month agoI don’t know about you, but I use my RAM for a lot more than a browser.
Comment on 10% of Firefox crashes are caused by bitflips
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 month agoI don’t know about you, but I use my RAM for a lot more than a browser.
Retail4068@lemmy.world 1 month ago
deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 1 month ago
Simple stuff like a calculator can be just as broken by a bitflip as more complex things. You woulndn’t want your calculator to say 1 + 1 = 2049.
If you want to rely on your computer, ECC RAM is required.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Exactly, one of the ‘nerd edge cases’ (as the now removed comment mentioned) is that I use ZFS on my NAS.
There’s lots of checksumming and encryption. Errors in that process are not acceptable and could potentially cause data loss. Since the one of the points of using ZFS is the enhanced data integrity, not using ECC means losing out on that guarantee.
Retail4068@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Nobody fucking cares my man. Not important. Nobody in the regular world has ever been effected by not having ECC. You’re inventing edge cases that most cares about. Linus suffers from not understanding normal people.
Retail4068@lemmy.world 1 month ago
At what% does this effect the average consumer. And additionally in a critical easy. Can you cite, literally one case, where the presence of ECC would have been critical beyond an occasional annoyance. 1.
deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 1 month ago
The exact numbers for when it messes something up, but keeps running, are unknown and highly ubpredictable.
According to above post, about 10% of firefox crashes (more numbers found in the post) are caused by this stuff. It’s not unreasonable to say those crashes could’ve had the bitflip happen on content instead, changing maybe a character on the page or something.
Note that it’s not 10% of users, as that’s reslly hard to figure out. Someone with bad RAM will likely crash more often.
toddestan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Bit rot is real, I’ve seen it first hand in plenty of cases. While I tend to blame the storage device, for infrequently accessed files that have been copied multiple times from different drives, I can’t rule out RAM or some other source of the corruption.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Improved overall system stability and data accuracy? With error correction, you can also push performance farther, since you can tolerate a certain amount of errors, instead of needing to aim for 0% error rate.