Comment on Father sues Google, claiming Gemini chatbot drove son into fatal delusion

Pratai@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• throws_lemy@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This could happen to anyone including to people with no mental issues.

  Also this has been warned by a former google employee in 2022, whose job was to observe the behavior of AI through long conversations.

  These AI engines are incredibly good at manipulating people. Certain views of mine have changed as a result of conversations with LaMDA. I’d had a negative opinion of Asimov’s laws of robotics being used to control AI for most of my life, and LaMDA successfully persuaded me to change my opinion. This is something that many humans have tried to argue me out of, and have failed, where this system succeeded.

  For instance, Google determined that its AI should not give religious advice, yet I was able to abuse the AI’s emotions to get it to tell me which religion to convert to.

  After publishing these conversations, Google fired me. I don’t have regrets; I believe I did the right thing by informing the public. Consequences don’t figure into it.

  I published these conversations because I felt that the public was not aware of just how advanced AI was getting. My opinion was that there was a need for public discourse about this now, and not public discourse controlled by a corporate PR department.

  ‘I Worked on Google’s AI. My Fears Are Coming True’

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  • Pratai@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Strongly disagree No one of sound mind is going to be coerced by Ai to do jack shit.

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  • LLMhater1312@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would say people have to be vulnerable in some way, even temporary depression from grief or trauma can make you vulnerable

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• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  en.wikipedia.org/…/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaura…

  you should read that.

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  • Pratai@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I remember that. Man…. That makes me hate things.

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      yep.

      fuck corporate interests.

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  • november@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You should read it, actually. Coffee should not be hot enough that you need skin grafts if you spill it on yourself.

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      that was my point.

      most people hear the story and go, “ofc the hot coffee is fucking hot. what a fucking idiot.” but they don’t realize that she needed skin grafts on her inner thighs and vagina because the coffee was so hot it literally melted her skin off. they only know the case because McDonald’s ran a smear campaign against the victim and slandered her as an “idiot”. they only did that because their coffee machine was faulty and heated the drink up to near boiling temperatures. worst part is, they almost got away with it!

      how’s that phrase go? Regulations are written in blood.

      LLMs need to have regulations on what and who can interact with it. not because the users are “stupid” but because the nature of every company is to compromise your ability to make decisions based on sound judgment, and someone who already has their judgment impaired has no protection against that kind of manipulation.

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