I was thinking the same thing, like what is the flow of the chat to get it to this point?
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NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
I would like to see the full transcript.
How do we know this didn’t start off with prompts about creating a book, or asking about exciting things in life, or I don’t know what.
Context would help a lot. Maybe it will come out in discovery.
man_wtfhappenedtoyou@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
I am also curious how the father saw the Gemini chats. Was it still on the screen days later? I am trying to imagine how that would work, my computer would lock and that would be that. Do kids give their parents passwords and their screen unlock codes?
tamal3@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I don’t lock my personal computer. It’s my husband & me at home, and he’s fine to use my device (even though he normally wouldn’t).
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Yeah it definitely does save conversations. Perhaps he did leave it unlocked. I do find that strange though, particularly if one was getting increasingly paranoid.
throws_lemy@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
This could happen to anyone including people without having mental issues, simply by having long conversations with AI.
On 7 August, Kate Fox received a phone call that upended her life. A medical examiner said that her husband, Joe Ceccanti – who had been missing for several hours – had jumped from a railway overpass and died. He was 48.
Fox couldn’t believe it. Ceccanti had no history of depression, she said, nor was he suicidal – he was the “most hopeful person” she had ever known. In fact, according to the witness accounts shared with Fox later, just before Ceccanti jumped, he smiled and yelled: “I’m great!” to the rail yard attendants below when they asked him if he was OK.
Her husband wanted to use ChatGPT to create sustainable housing. Then it took over his life.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
This was a different case. That doesn’t answer my question.
To comment on what you said, how is it people can argue all day long like morons and dig into their beliefs, but somehow AI manages to change peoples minds and get them to think differently? What exactly is it doing?
It is so hard to believe people are this stupid, but then again, looking at most people I guess it isn’t that shocking.
NannerBanner@literature.cafe 4 weeks ago
To comment on what you said, how is it people can argue all day long like morons and dig into their beliefs, but somehow AI manages to change peoples minds and get them to think differently? What exactly is it doing?
Acting like a servant, confidante, therapist/authority figure, and your best friend, while appearing to be competent and knowledgeable about everything that passes through your mind. And it does it in a way that no human could mimic, because it doesn’t have it’s own thoughts, doesn’t get tired, and is never gone when you come looking for it.
A chatbot can agree with you a hundred times over and simply move you along one step at a time in those hundred times. A human would lose their shit and walk away groaning the moment you try to tell them that the sky is actually down, and the ground ‘up,’ and it’s all just a matter of perspective.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah, what was he wearing, right?
XLE@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Pretty well articulated point.
“What did the prompts say” is a synonym for “was he asking for it”
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m so sick of people blaming mentally ill (or completely sane!) individuals from being goaded into psychosis by this shitware chatbot garbage masquerading as AI.
it’s fucking software, it shouldn’t be ABLE to talk someone into suicide, much less give them a countdown (literally what gemini did here). It shouldn’t be able to goad someone into attempting to attack an airport. I can’t fathom the liability if it had succeeded, I know goog has deep pockets but fuck, this needs to stop.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Huh?
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
you’re blaming the victim. stop. why simp for one of the largest companies in the world?
jfc
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Oh so stupid shit. Figures.
Yes I am interested in how this happened. In a murder do you not investigate it?
What the fuck.
Google can go fuck themselves.