Comment on Green Party wins Gorton and Denton by-election with Labour pushed into third by Reform
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 6 days agoThey hope to pay on “it is us, or Reform” which is party before country and could backfire and massively damage the country.
True. I don’t think it’s a popular message with the public. Clearly people in Gorton and Denton thought “actually we don’t have to vote for Labour as the only alternative to Reform; we can vote for the Greens instead”.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 5 days ago
It didn’t work of the Democrats either. It should of because how awful Trump is and Kamala seamed good, but how good she would be wasn’t the focus. But their system is even worse than ours.
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 5 days ago
True. I think voters want to see politicians who embody values that voters like. The pitch of “vote for us just because we’re not quite as bad as the other guys”, without stating appealing values of your own, doesn’t really inspire anybody
jabjoe@feddit.uk 5 days ago
Yep. Compounding it, the far right throw in trolling social media that there is no point voting. That those opposing the far right are just as bad in some way. That there is no less bad option to vote, so don’t bother.
Frankly, I blame those who didn’t vote Harris or Clinton almost as those voted Trump. Hold your nose and vote less bad, AND push for a better system. The UK’s FPTP is deeply broken, but it’s dysfunction is nothing compared with the US’s duopoly.
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 5 days ago
Yes the voting systems of both the UK and US are broken because they’re unrepresentative. Hillary Clinton in 2016 got about 3 million more votes than Trump did. In many countries that would have made her the president. But the anti-democratic electoral college system in the US meant that Trump was made president instead.