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poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

This is a fundamental issue of the Matrix protocol, yes. For regular small scale use it doesn’t matter so much, and the state history gets reset every time you do a room upgrade, which is another annoying “feature” of Matrix, but it eases the fundamental problem a bit.

But IMHO the Matrix protocol is a child of the Bitcoin hype era and is built on a similar data-structure that is inherently impossible to scale and the makers of Matrix should have realized that early on. Their bosses back then actually did, but they spun it of as a separate company and got some crypto-currency investments so the can was kicked down the road and here we are…

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cRazi_man@europe.pub ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Is there a good alternative that you would recommend?

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- poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  XMPP obviously. Have a look at joinjabber.org
  
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  - Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Still staggering to me that XMPP isn’t the default, since it was used in many chat apps in the late 90’s.
    
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    iamthetot@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    What client(s) do you use/prefer?
    
    Like many, I am looking for a Discord replacement and (possibly hot take) I largely like Discord’s layout, UI, and chat flow. That is to say, I like threads, channels, categories, and “servers” (spaces, what-have-you) to partition my chat experience. There are a few Matrix clients that replicate this closely, but the XMPP ones I have seen so far at least were not very enjoyable user experiences for me.
    
    (Not for nothing, I also have been able to get a Synapse server running on my homelab, but have thus far not been able to successfully get an XMPP server running so that’s not helping my experience either)
    
    Happy to check out your suggestions.
    
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    SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Does it do screen sharing, group calls, etc.?
    
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illusionist@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Any source for the coin stuff? Never read about it

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- poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  They got a major early investment in 2018 from Status, a cryptocurrency/web3 company, and later in 2021 an even bigger one in relation to Protocol Labs, who peddle their own cryptocurrency.
  
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