Comment on Trans people in Kansas are being ordered to surrender their drivers licenses
smiletolerantly@awful.systems 20 hours agoI think the trans movement dug a deep hole for itself when it promoted transition surgery for minors.
We didn’t. Noone is even advocating for that. That is 100% a right-wing straw-man.
That works both ways though, when an “F” on the license is for someone who is 6’3" with quarterback shoulders and five-o’clock shadow.
Exactly, and now there’s gonna be a ton of beardy, muscly men who are forced to revert to an “F” on their licenses.
0x0@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
I guess puberty-blockers are less invasive…
sureshot0@discuss.online 8 hours ago
Puberty blockers were not advocated for by the community either.
Trans people in the 80s and 90s would recommend runaways who joined their community to take sex hormones. They did not recommend surgery or puberty blockers, ever.
The modern trans community has been medicalized. The medical community recommends puberty blockers to minors, which the trans street community does not recommend. No one recommends surgery to minors, although it is sometimes allowed with teenagers over 16 in some rare cases, it is not “recommended.”
0x0@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
Glad to hear it.
Money talks?
sureshot0@discuss.online 5 hours ago
No.
Puberty blockers are a compromise.
Ideally, according to the trans community, teenage trans people should be allowed to take cross sex hormones alongside their own natural puberty. I’m not saying this is my own personal opinion, I don’t know enough about it, but as someone who once lived in an area highly populated by trans people, this is what a lot of drag queens and trans people who live in this parallell culture seem to believe.
I can see why they say this, even though I haven’t researched it enough to form my own opinion. As far as I know, puberty blockers exist to stall puberty so that the child can have time to change their mind if they want, because hormones have a more perminant effect either way.
“Wait and see if they change their mind” is something that you’d say if you didn’t actually believe what someone was saying about themselves. Taking cross sex hormones should inhibit a lot of secondary sex characteristics from the other puberty anyway so I’m not sure why they’re needed unless the adults just don’t believe them.