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• EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You’re not bothered by the plutonium stuff? Would you still defend it if the plutonium features were still there in the self hosted version?

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  • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That might be the stupidest fucking statement ever.

    Your basically asking if unicorns shit gold would you take the unicorn poop.

    It’s nonsensical. It doesn’t reflect the reality of the situation. Anyone can make up b******* hypotheticals to make something sound bad. It’s still b*******.

    Why the fuck would anyone give a fuck about the plutonium stuff? Kick starters, investment backing, and crowd funding are all standard ways to generate initial revenue. It’s a f****** company. It needs money to buy hardware in paper server costs. Development isn’t free and if you want people to work full-time on something you have to get this pay them.

    He basically asked for $300k to start full-time development and Kickstart the company after he left closed development. He provided a full proof of service documentation in history of his closed development.

    The only people who have any issue with the plutonium stuff are those who are either too f****** retarded to understand basic business or a too far up their own asses to think that everything should be free in life.

    If you self-host you don’t have to pay f****** wild concept considering how many self-toast services actually charge you money for full service. So that alone is already one up on a lot of stuff.

    A basic subscription is far more reliable than donations if you want a company to be able to actually function. A subscription provides a reliable income so you can actually plan your costs and budgets. It’s a far better option than microtransactions that discord seems to want to push.

    Cuz again server costs and vitamin costs aren’t free. Remember FOSS stands for free as in freedom to do what you want with the software within the license not free as in it doesn’t cost you f****** anything.

    If fluxer had come out of the gate with no proof of concept, no history. No explanation of the credentials of the developer. No business license and no source code on demonstration and just said hey. Trust me bro. I need 300 Grand then. Yeah it would be an issue. But lo and behold the reality is none of that’s true.

    Could it all go poof belly up and a month time 2 months a year? Yes of course, small businesses die all the time. 300K is not a lot of money for a small business. Frankly, the fact he only asked for $300k is more of a red flag than he asked for money at all. Cuz he’s going to have to pull a lot f****** more money if you wants to do anything remotely clothes to what his goal is. If he had shot for a 500k 600k somewhere in that vicinity. I would personally be more trusting than him asking for $300k. Much more than 600k and I would start asking questions as that’s a little bit much for a initial investment backing.

    Seriously, the more I look around on Lemmy the more, I think that nobody here seems to actually understand that s*** costs money.

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    • EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      You sound upset, you should talk to someone about that.

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  • delcake@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m not sure what the reason for this theoretical is when it’s already documented that self-hosted instances have full free access to the paid perks.

    It’s become pretty clear since all of this kicked off that none of the Discord-replacement hopefuls have the infrastructure to accept even the smallest fraction of users fleeing Discord. Paying for some nice-to-have features when using the official instance is at least a plan towards paying for that infrastructure.

    Speaking on a more broad level, I find it more suspicious when services are free these days with no path to self-sufficient monetization. We’ve seen enough of those fall to venture capital influence at this point.

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    • EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Thank you, that’s a very interesting perspective. I wasn’t aware of the plutonium thing.

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