Comment on AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

• KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Now tell that to your high-school English teacher when they assign you a research project.

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  • NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This isn’t school, kid. This is the internet. You aren’t a teacher and this comments section isn’t a research paper.

    You posed an obnoxious whataboutism, as if the horrifying things America has done to multiple asian countries somehow cancel each other out because one is ‘worse’ than the other despite both being war crimes.

    Though as an aside, would you consider firebombing every Japanese city they can get a plane over, for a period of months ‘worse’ than wiping two cities off the map because they wanted to test out their new toy (in the case of little boy, potentially running the risk of it failing to go off and leaving a functional mass of enriched uranium right at the feet of a country they were at war with)?

    Would you consider the use of agent orange and napalm ‘worse’ than them say, creating AIDS, or destabilising any nations that were getting a little too successful, any part of the MKultra program, funelling huge quantities of money to a country that has still to this day never signed the nuclear nonproliferation agreement?

    Would you consider it worse that there are widespread birth defects in multiple arabic countries due to the use of depleted Uranium munitions for so long that the ground became radioactive?

    Or would you be willing to stop comparing piss and chocolate for the sake of being neurotic on the internet?

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    • KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Holy shit I almost took you seriesly. Then I read the part about how “them” created AIDS lmfaoooo

      And I thought I was a good shitposter. Whew. I am thoroughly outclassed.

      People villify nuclear weapons to ludicrous proportions, and that was kind of my whole point. Would you, as a thinking and feeling person, if given the choice, choose to be instantly annihilated by a nuclear bomb or live to be poisoned over decades? I’d choose to meet the sun, personally, but I’m always astounded how many people think the poison is somehow the lesser of these evils.

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      • NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Congratulations for failing to address anything I said.

        In response to your piss poor argument of “would you rather suffer a poison that makes your children deformed and gives you and everyone in your village/town/city turbocancer, or would you rather have your city turned into a smoldering crater?”

        Considering that modern nuclear weapons, excluding a couple of nuclear artillery shells, ‘viable deterrent’ devices and dirty bombs, are Thermonuclear devices capable of up to and beyond the triple digit megaton range (The weapon known colloquially as ‘Tsar Bomba’ would have had a yield of 100Mt if they used the original Uranium tamper instead of the Lead they used to stop it from irradiating the entire area of their test site. Instead it ‘only’ had a yield of 50Mt, the blast wave it created circled the globe three times and shattered windows 500 miles away.

        So, you tell me.

        Turbocancer for you, your family, friends and their family, your neighbours, their neighbours, any livestock, pets or wild animals, because the scientists that got picked up by government agencies after the last war, wanted to test out their new chemical concoction on the newest group they had deemed to be an ‘enemy’.

        Or everything you’ve ever known being converted into a high temperature plasma setting fire to an area 60 miles in diameter, then afterwards everything downwind gets covered in radioactive ash (and also given turbocancer) when the 40 mile high cloud of debris falls out of the sky, all because the scientists that got picked up after the last war wanted to see how much physics they could fit into a bomb.

        Or are you willing to admit that maybe comparing the two is like comparing Fluorine and TNT.

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  • athatet@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You aren’t they.

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