Comment on AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

• hector@lemmy.today ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think the emp is pretty limited to the blast zone in frying electronics. The fallout from a weapon spreads around the world, circling in the winds countless times dropping dust everywhere, but the emp is localized to more around the area of physical destruction but not sure exactly.

  The Neutron bombs, not entirely sure in physics how that works, but they produce no actual blast that causes physical destruction so much and just kills everything.

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  • Jax@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I repeat, radiation absolutely fucks electronic components. I am not talking about an emp, I am talking about radiation.

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh, how far from the blast and how does it mess them up do you know? I should know that I guess I just heard about the emp, and not sure how a neutron bomb would affect electronics either.

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      • Jax@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No, that I can’t answer — it would depend entirely on the level of fallout and where it happens to land.

        You would need to be able to perfectly, and I mean perfectly, predict weather months in advance in order to prepare accordingly.

        The reaility is that for an AI, or rather an AGI, to make the choice to launch nukes would require them to reach a point where they accept the potential loss of their own ‘life’ in exchange for whatever value a nuclear war might hold.

        Now, a modern AI making that choice? Absolutely possible, the things are fucking crazy with literally no concept of what life is.

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• Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The electromagnetic pulse caused by a nuke would pop resisters everywhere.

  AI would more likely use biological means to get rid of us.

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Assuming AI would care about itself and not just “solving the problem”.

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    • Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, these doom scenarios require cascading assumptions and no real answer, except maybe “don’t”.

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  • NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Like heating the planet another degree and starving us out of existence by killing off biodiversity until the crops die out… Like they’re doing now?

    (I say “Us” when I just really mean the 99% of people that haven’t got self sufficient underground complexes)

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