Comment on Firefox 148 introduces the promised AI kill switch for people who aren't into LLMs
Orygin@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks agoSsshhh don’t say that too loud or the “no one wanted this” crowd may hear you. They would be very scared if they could read.
XLE@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
When Firefox 118 was announced, they didn’t call it AI. They didn’t even call it machine translation, which is what it was.
They called it local, automated translation.
Maybe you should have read what I wrote and what Mozilla said.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
When I turned it off the translation thingy went away, so I’m not sure if it was AI all along and they were lying about it or not. Just as well, there’s an extension that works fine and it doesn’t reload the page every time I toggled it like the built in one did.
XLE@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
The translation is technically AI, but it’s a distant cousin from the LLMs and image generators that have repulsed so many people. And, notably, this is from before AI became marketing hype.
It also produces a joint non-profit venture with a university, rather than today’s weird gimmicks or for-profit partnerships.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It’s less a vague umbrella and more an academic category. It just feels odd to call it vague in the same way you wouldn’t call “chemistry” vague, despite it having applications ranging from hand soap to toxic waste.
Orygin@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
And?
Because the term AI was not in vogue at the time, even though it’s clearly the same technology, it doesn’t count? It’s literally packaged under the same umbrella now.
Anyway, the big issue is still tech ppl thinking their viewpoint is the only one valid, and that every generic user will have the same exact needs as them.
XLE@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I already addressed all of these arguments in another comment in this thread…
Orygin@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Not all these arguments no.
You’re defending your position that this AI feature is not really AI so it’s ok, but the others are all bad because of the two letters of the devil.
Still AI is a marketing term, always has been. AI in the form of machine learning has been around for more than a decade, and lots of things already use that.
The knee jerk reaction of tech circles saying mozilla will sell their soul because there is no “kill switch” is so fucking dumb. Even more dumb is thinking no other users may want any of these features. Unless you work at Mozilla, and/or do product research for browsers, chances are you most likely have no idea how people will want to use these features in their day to day.
Even working on one’s own product in a company, few really understand the users needs and wants, especially tech persons.