Comment on Firefox 148 introduces the promised AI kill switch for people who aren't into LLMs

• Orygin@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ssshhh don’t say that too loud or the “no one wanted this” crowd may hear you. They would be very scared if they could read.

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  • XLE@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When Firefox 118 was announced, they didn’t call it AI. They didn’t even call it machine translation, which is what it was.

    They called it local, automated translation.

    Maybe you should have read what I wrote and what Mozilla said.

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    • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When I turned it off the translation thingy went away, so I’m not sure if it was AI all along and they were lying about it or not. Just as well, there’s an extension that works fine and it doesn’t reload the page every time I toggled it like the built in one did.

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      • XLE@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The translation is technically AI, but it’s a distant cousin from the LLMs and image generators that have repulsed so many people. And, notably, this is from before AI became marketing hype.

        It also produces a joint non-profit venture with a university, rather than today’s weird gimmicks or for-profit partnerships.

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    • Orygin@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And?
      Because the term AI was not in vogue at the time, even though it’s clearly the same technology, it doesn’t count? It’s literally packaged under the same umbrella now.

      Anyway, the big issue is still tech ppl thinking their viewpoint is the only one valid, and that every generic user will have the same exact needs as them.

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      • XLE@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I already addressed all of these arguments in another comment in this thread…

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• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  TWP does it better.

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  • CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    TWP dumps your pages to google translate, no thanks. FF is on device

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    • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You don’t have to use google translate (there are 2 other services included), and TWP doesn’t reload the page when you toggle the translate function off and on like the built in one did.

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      • CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Those are still external services. I didn’t mention them because they carry the exact same risks

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• SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I tried FF translation a couple times, and it woefully poor compared to Google’s. What am I doing wrong?

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  • Blisterexe@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Firefox’s runs locally while google’s runs on their (much more powerful) servers, for something similar to chrome’s I’d just get the deepl extension, which does the same thing just better.

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