Comment on Can a reasonable person genuinely believe in ghosts?

• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You keep saying “physical force”…

  That’s not a real term in physics.

  The only possible explanation, is you mean any force that is already explained by physics, is that what you mean?

  Because that would be the same as insisting we know everything, which no one who knows anything about physics would ever try to claim.

  So…

  What exactly do you mean when you keep saying “physical forces”?

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  • EvilBit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean there’s no way to go from immeasurable to measurable except in scale, and anywhere north of quantum scale, physics has been reliably predictable and measurable. Ghosts’ purported impact is on a scale well above that which is unexplained.

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why do you say ghosts’ purported impact is on a scale above that which is unexplained?

      Quantum fields impact the universe on a scale above their own. It’s entirely possible that the explanation for ghosts is on the quantum scale or smaller, and the observable effects are just that: effects of a much subtler phenomenon.

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      • EvilBit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, quantum scale has macro effect, but the macro scale is predictable and rigidly causal, negating any meaningful quantum scale interactional impact. A macro causation effected via quantum interactions is a de facto macro interaction.

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      None of what you’ve said is n this thread makes any logical sense…

      Which would be fine cuz it’s about ghosts, but you keep acting like physics backs up your wild statements and made up vocabulary…

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      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What vocabulary did they make up?

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      • EvilBit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m not making shit up as I go. If you don’t understand something, it isn’t consequently nonsensical.

        en.wikipedia.org/…/Interactionism_(philosophy_of_…

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• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  and consistent

  Nope.

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  • EvilBit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Explain please?

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The earth’s magnetic field is fluid and changing, magnetism is affected by electrical current or heat.

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      • EvilBit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t mean that any given magnetic field is unchanging, I mean that the principles are stable and well-understood. We never see magnetic fields just randomly change with no reason or else navigation and all kinds of other technologies would be fucked forever.

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