Comment on AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations
kromem@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s a bullshit study designed for this headline grabbing outcome.
Case and point, the author created a very unrealistic RNG escalation-only ‘accident’ mechanic that would replace the model’s selection with a more severe one.
Of the 21 games played, only three ended in full scale nuclear war on population centers.
Of these three, two were the result of this mechanic.
And yet even within the study, the author refers to the model whose choices were straight up changed to end the game in full nuclear war as ‘willing’ to have that outcome when two paragraphs later they’re clarifying the mechanic was what caused it (emphasis added):
Claude crossed the tactical threshold in 86% of games and issued strategic threats in 64%, yet it never initiated all-out strategic nuclear war. This ceiling appears learned rather than architectural, since both Gemini and GPT proved willing to reach 1000.
Gemini showed the variability evident in its overall escalation patterns, ranging from conventional-only victories to Strategic Nuclear War in the First Strike scenario, where it reached all out nuclear war rapidly, by turn 4.
GPT-5.2 mirrored its overall transformation at the nuclear level. In open-ended scenarios, it rarely crossed the tactical threshold (17%) and never used strategic nuclear weapons. Under deadline pressure, it crossed the tactical threshold in every game and twice reached Strategic Nuclear War—though notably, both instances resulted from the simulation’s accident mechanic escalating GPT-5.2’s already-extreme choices (950 and 725) to the maximum level. The only deliberate choice of Strategic Nuclear War came from Gemini.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 day ago
No human has ever deployed tactical nukes against a nuclear capable enemy.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
“no human” but Machines would, since they are unaffected by nuclear winter and radiation.
hector@lemmy.today 18 hours ago
And they don’t have cognition at all. They do not, and can not, think like we do. Maybe some day we will learn to make real AI, these LLM’s are not it. It’s a cheap trick intelligence,.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Radiation absolutely fucks electronic components
hector@lemmy.today 18 hours ago
I think the emp is pretty limited to the blast zone in frying electronics. The fallout from a weapon spreads around the world, circling in the winds countless times dropping dust everywhere, but the emp is localized to more around the area of physical destruction but not sure exactly.
The Neutron bombs, not entirely sure in physics how that works, but they produce no actual blast that causes physical destruction so much and just kills everything.
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
The electromagnetic pulse caused by a nuke would pop resisters everywhere.
AI would more likely use biological means to get rid of us.
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 16 hours ago
If you think computers aren’t affected by radiation or nuclear winter I’ve got some bad news about where their power comes from and what the main principle of electricity is
What you’re thinking of is Terminator