If everyone switched from firefox to waterfox, Mozilla would kill firefox which would in turn will waterfox
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KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 2 months agoI recommend Waterfox
They have to not fill their browser with AI slop features.
pipe01@programming.dev 2 months ago
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 2 months ago
Last time I tried Waterfox some sites like Twitch that actively block usage on old browsers, refused to work because the latest Waterfox release was based on a Firefox like 20+ builds behind.
XLE@piefed.social 2 months ago
Waterfox right now is built on ESR 148, which is on par with the latest Firefox release! ESR releases will lag several versions behind, but that’s normal (even on Mozilla’s side), and I’d be kind of shocked if they missed a major ESR release before another one came out.
KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I have used it for twitch for years without issue. I also have ublock origin with twitch adblock.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 2 months ago
Well you clearly haven’t used the standard available download (non-beta/nightly release) consistently through last year. Waterfox was using ESR 128 since October 2024, kept that base until finally upgrading to ESR 140 last August. So that’s nearly a year of its base being out of date. And some sites really don’t like that since they’re looking at that version for support.
https://www.waterfox.com/releases/6.5.0/ https://www.waterfox.com/releases/6.6.0/
Twitch only supports the last TWO versions of Firefox officially and will actively block logging in from older versions. So while you might be able to watch Twitch, if you aren’t already logged in, you won’t be able to login.
https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/supported-browsers?language=en_US
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There are thousands of posts about it online for Waterfox other forks.
XLE@piefed.social 2 months ago
It was outdated, but only for a couple months. Firefox ESR is built to last about a year, and it was maintained with security patches up-to-date alongside Firefox Production versions 129, 130, 131, 132… all the way to 139. Only then did ESR 140 come out.
But if Twitch only supports the two most recent Firefox production versions, I guess ESR wouldn’t cut it after FF 131 came out.
KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I have used the standard available download on multiple operating systems for years without issues with twitch.