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Comment on Amazon BUSTED for Widespread Scheme to Inflate Prices Across the Economy— Amazon, its vendors, and competing retailers are price fixing, hiking up prices for consumer products

obelisk_complex@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

I’m always a little shocked when people ask me if my product is on Amazon. I never even considered it because I’ve known what they are for so long; it’s been a bit of a wakeup call that most people still have no idea how fucking awful Amazon is. It sucks struggling with market visibility, selling just from my own website, but it beats the hell out of being bullied like this until I’m big enough to have my product stolen and copied by Amazon Basics.

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tempest@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
The appeal of Amazon is the things that surround the store.

When I buy from a random website it often takes weeks to ship, costs more to ship, makes me deal with CC fraud if something is untoward, fights me on returns and I usually have to pay to ship back etc etc.

Amazon is bad for a number of reasons but the main driver for me is not the choice of things on there, it’s everything else.

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- jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  And that’s what they innovated. Anyone can make a website that sells shit. They innovated the supply chain, storage, shipping and delivery.
  
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willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
You have to do way more marketing since you can’t rely on search result hits, right?

It would be cool if there were a business fediverse type deal where searching worked across all the small business federated web sites. Such a network should putposely exclude or kick out (politely and with a celebration) anyone that got too large, to maintain a small business focus to basically give the little guys a leg up.

It would be like a fediverse small bis cooperative kinda thing. That way there would be a search box for products and services that everyone could use to search the entire small bis network. And this would bypass monopolies like Google or Amazon.

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- ConstableJelly@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Search results on Amazon are fully pay-to-play anyway. You don’t get anywhere near the top of the list without paying for the privilege. No big deal for slop producers who sell in volume, but basically useless for small businesses or private sellers.
  
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  - willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Didn’t know. Thanks for saying that.
    
    So it makes even more sense for the small buinesses to organise online under a special coop charter to fight off the icky monopolies.
    
    Like small mom and pop grocers could band together to order in volume to get similar discount to walmart. It might be hard to organise this for grocers in meat space, but should be more plausible to set up a coop fediverse site with a highly small bis protective charter written by a lawyer.
    
    Maybe the way to handle the members that got too big and too successful for the coop network is to celebrate those memberd for a month by promoting them in a farewell promotion, then move them to a harder to acess “alumni” section of the site, instead of instantly and totally cutting them off. Someone more business oriented than me should think about the details.
    
    My main point is that small anybodies should organise, and not just the workers. Small businesses are routinely oppressed, and should otganise and fight back. If we wait for our billionaire-captured government to bust the trusts, we might have to wait a minute.
    
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