Comment on Chocolate kept in anti-theft boxes as retailers warn it's being stolen to order
scholar@lemmy.world 1 day agoProducer - has already been paid by legitimate shop for goods, isn’t affected by theft. Legitimate shop - pays for goods then doesn’t get paid. Is affected.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
And? I said “corporation”. I don’t give a fuck how “Legitimate” they are. I hope they are affected and I very much want them to be affected.
Sainsbury’s is majority owned by Qatar Investment Authority - a sovereign wealth fund, the rest is private equity.
Tesco’s is majority owned by fucking BlackRock and over 80% of the shares are other misc private equity.
Morrisons is owned by US private equity in whole.
ASDA is owned by private equity and Walmart.
scholar@lemmy.world 1 day ago
By all means shop at Coop and Waitrose then, but you’re missing the point: this is making things more expensive for everyone else. Shops have to raise prices to offset losses and investment in security.
If everyone bought stolen goods the legitimate shops would go out of business and the shoplifters would have nowhere to steal from. Your cheap goods are being subsidised by honest customers.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I know I missed a few lol.
It’s you who’s missing the point, though.
I’ve never bought from one of those shoplifters and I’ve never personally met or seen one, I have zero self-interested motivation here.
Now you’re getting it. I do hope they do go out of business, I hope every single corpo goes out of business and we can fix the world’s problems instead of perpetually transferring all our money to the ultra-rich and the elderly boomers who destroyed the world.
Nothing less than total corpo death.
Then we can sail to the stars.
scholar@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Unless you have evidence that supermarkets are artificially inflating prices this isn’t going to fix anything. Goods cost money to make. Shoplifting doesn’t pay for the production of goods. This isn’t a sustainable way of supplying people with food. It raises prices for customers. It exposes shop workers to violence and abuse. It funds criminal gangs.
And then to top it all off people like you come swanning in thinking you’re supporting Robin Hood and his merry men and that just a few more shoplifters will cause Tesco to collapse and that whatever replaces it (because you haven’t actually thought about what replaces it) will be some Star Trek utopian paradise compared to the devilry of having to pay cost + a margin. (Hint: Robin Hood gave to the poor, not sold to the poor).
What you may notice about Co-op and Waitrose (one being a consumer co-operative and the other owned by a trust on behalf of its employees) is that they are on the more expensive side of supermarkets. They aren’t transferring your money to the ultra rich. They aren’t funding the campaigns of right wing would-be dictators. They are paying a fair price for the goods that they sell, and they are paying a fair wage to the employees who work there. The other supermarkets are often cheaper on many items. Mass shoplifting isn’t going to help this.
The real problem is that the cost of many goods is too high. The real causes of this are climate change, international conflict, brexit and other tariffs, labour related costs, and to some extent, profiteering of the part of the producers. Notice how shoplifting doesn’t address any of these issues.