Comment on Federated End-to-End Encrypted Messaging is Coming Soon

RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• blah3166@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  why? because it would be cool if only intended recipients are able to view sent messages.

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  • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s not really going to be the case if you’re using a website instead of an audited app like signal/matrix.

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    • blah3166@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      that argument doesn’t hold. you’re letting perfect be the enemy of good-and if you truly believe that, then you wouldn’t be recommending Matrix which has web clients, see https://app.element.io/

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      • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Any we client including Matrix we webclient is incredibly vulnerable to the server just injecting JS and reading your messages.

        Like there is no point of E2E encryption in Twitter, Musk can read your messages if you open them on any device he can execute arbitrary code on.

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• deadsuperhero@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So, I used messaging here in the broad sense. One possible application for it is instant messaging, which there are ActivityPub implementations out there doing that. But it can also be used for statuses or pretty much anything else that gets federated.

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  • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That actually sounds cool, I wonder if they could support Hidden containers, so the same message can be decypted to different messages by different users.

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• knova@infosec.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  One benefit is that Signal controls all the infrastructure and some people do not like that. Sure, you could also spin up a Matrix home server, but that isn’t an ideal solution for everyone either. Some people want to do messaging via their existing ActivityPub infrastructure and that’s OK.

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• chocrates@piefed.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  from what i can tell, mls supports much larger group chats (50k users) whereas i assume signal would struggle.

  my chat of 10 people i signal seems just as secure, if i am reading right.

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