FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And they’ve convinced you that it’s a-okay for your kids to be using these products, in full knowledge of the harm they cause.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And they’ve convinced you that it’s a-okay for your kids to be using these products, in full knowledge of the harm they cause.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s so fucking creepy. It’s not just making people dumber, its literally exposing kids to sexual content and sexualizing children in advertisements aimed at adults.
At what point is it ok for all of society to demand these people either be put in jail or at least exiled from the rest of society?
Parents outraged as Meta uses photos of schoolgirls in ads targeting man Instagram pictures of girls as young as 13 were posted to promote Threads site ‘as bait’, campaigner says
Scrollone@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
I don’t agree.
I started using the web as a curious 8 years old. I was pretending to be an adult in order to sign up to forums, chat with people, etc.
Yes, I was exposed to porn, gore (remember goatse?) but that didn’t make me dumb or a molester.
But nothing beats what I learned thanks to the internet. Endless days spent on programming forums, reading articles on a newborn Wikipedia, etc.
Even just talking with older people than me made me learn how to deal with things and life.
I don’t think that the internet for a kid is bad per se. I wouldn’t like a blanket ban for kids like the UK. If it was like that when I was a kid, I would probably be a more stupid person.
I think that the real bad thing is the stupid phones and apps that give you dopamine rushes.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I hate to say this, but the Internet is not the same as it was back when I was growing up.
You always had the possibility of stumbling across a bad actor. Now the billionaire tech broligoply who own most social media are the bad actors. How many websites did you visit where the person running the website has been caught repeatedly trying to psychologically manipulate and control the masses via disinformation?
Back in the day, nobody would be doing whatever the fuck it is these people are doing with kids and their pedo adjacent targeted ads and chat bots bc they would be afraid of being sent to jail for cp
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Nowadays it’s filled with giant, powerful, activelly predactorial entities using teams of Psychologists to come up with ways to subvert human falibilities and weaknesses to their ends no matter how much it fucks up their victims.
Back in the day pretty much the worst that could happen to you was getting hurt when trying to do for fun some kind of explosive based on a FAQ from Usenet.
Back in the day it was like a sleepy village with some shady corners, nowadays its Blade Runner’s Los Angeles with the authorities trying to turn it into Mega City One.
SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I agree - mostly. But…things online are RADICALLY different now, vs late 90s / early 2000s.
I’ve outlined some of my media and tech curation for my kids above; I would LOVE for them to stumble across stuff like we did. But that internet is long gone…or if not…severely booby trapped. The competence required of (say) a curious 8yr old in 2026 vs 2002 to navigate the online landscape and NOT encounter those booby traps (I feel) is several orders of magnitude higher.
I don’t think we can just park our kids in front of the 486 and say “here’s Encarta; have at it. Then I’ll show you this cool thing called a BBS”.
Kinda sucks.
Still, there are useful funnels / curation pathways. You CAN recreate that experience for your kids…but it’s no longer “are you winning, son?” set it and forget it meme. Now it’s “Daddy needs to be a part time sysadmin and know what’s what”.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Corpocrap scrolley apps exploit you on purpose, but that doesn’t generalize. Not.that non techy people understand that
Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Zuckerberg had to testify last week lemmy.world/post/43284616
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People get pissed at me but, as a short-term solution, I’m okay with giving up my ID in order to lock kids out.
Ideally, there’d be federal regulation of these platforms in every country banning algorithmically-elevated content, ads, privacy violations, and holding the operators of these platforms accountable for CSAM, but I think that will take decades.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Personally, I don’t feel comfortable giving my ID to social media. Especially not with the many data breaches that are happening these days. I think it was a month or three ago that Discord had their data breach and got thousands of ID’s stolen of people.
Yet Discord still decides to push forward their “verification system with ID or face scan”.
Also here’s a screenshot of a comment someone once made and that also got me thinking about the future of “showing your ID and/ or Face scan to ‘protect the kids’”. Another tone; people and especially teenagers will nearly always find ways to get around rules. I mean, we all were teenagers before and we often also got around the rules.
screenshot of a Lemmy comment.
Little8Lost@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
At least germany is working on a system where people are able to verify that they are over 18 (and maybe other things if they extend the system) without needing to send the ID to some website.
They use the Zero-Knowledge-Proofs which is still quite young.
A plus about that is that it only says if the person with the proof is older or younger but not who it is and other stuff
But sadly its not reality yet
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
People get pisses at you for good reason
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Why does it need to take decades though?
I bet if there were actual consequences for this shit, like in the form of seizing assets to be paid to victims, the issue would be solved very quickly.
SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Lesser, greater, middling, it’s all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I’m not a pious hermit, I haven’t done only good in my life. But if I’m to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all”
Like the responder below, I do not feel comfortable giving my ID to social media sites. Hell, we had our government controlled, medical database (Medicare) get hacked and leak PII. And the yanks had their SSN pasted all over the net.
And those were a supposedly hardened pipelines.
Trust Facebook? Really? Nah.