That works. Iâm not saying you canât hunt with other methods. Iâm just saying that I canât see much of an argument against the use of leadless firearms for hunting, besides a weak gun control one (hunting weapons arenât a significant portion of the danger from firearms, mostly handguns or rifles like the AR-15). People can hunt however they want, or not at all, as long as it is controlled to healthy levels and doesnât cause any other issues, and, ideally doesnât cause unnecessary suffering to the animal.
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graycloud@leminal.space â¨1⊠â¨day⊠agoWhere I grew up, most people use a Have-a-Heart trap or a snare, then a knife or captive bolt gun (no bulltets).
Cethin@lemmy.zip â¨1⊠â¨day⊠ago
graycloud@leminal.space â¨1⊠â¨day⊠ago
There isnât any argument for gun control. Tell the CIA to stop grooming kids on Discord and Telegram to do school shootings, problem solved. Notice this never happens in Iceland. Thatâs because their version of the CIA isnât on Discord.
GraniteM@lemmy.world â¨1⊠â¨day⊠ago
Scenario A: Youâre minding your own business, when a bullet passes through your heart/lungs and youâre dead in seconds.
Scenario B: You get caught in a trap and wait for hours for an ape with a knife or a bolt gun to come along and finish the job.
Honestly, if I were an animal, Iâd prefer Scenario A.
graycloud@leminal.space â¨1⊠â¨day⊠ago
Have-A-Heart traps are used by animal welfare groups and animal shelters, so I donât know if itâs so bad to wait in the trap, unless said animal groups are incorrect to use said traps. Admittedly, cats who have never encountered these traps sometimes freak out when first trapped, and cats who have seen them before can outsmart them easily. Iâve never thought they were good for trapping cats, as they are specifically designed NOT to trap cats.
Have-A-Heart traps are intended to trap furbearing animals but allow for the release of cats, dogs or endagered species. Youâve probably seen them before. These staps are box rectangle shaped, chrome colored, and are activated when the animal places their weight on the lever in the back of the trap. These are also called double door traps.
Bolt guns are commonly used in animal slaughter and are often considered âhumane.â If you eat red meat, the cow was likely killed with a captive bolt gun.
GraniteM@lemmy.world â¨18⊠â¨hours⊠ago
Iâm familiar with all of the technology involved, but Iâm not sure about the applications youâre describing.
With a Have-A-Heart, the specific goal is live capture and release. There is no killing involved. The animal might be properly freaked out at the experience of being trapped, but that is specifically so as to permit an animalâs live relocation.
With a bolt gun, itâs meant to be used in a slaughterhouse scenario, which is a whole moral discussion of its own, but at bare minimum one wants the animals to be kept as calm as possible until the bolt gun is applied, because stressed out meat tastes worse than calm and placid up until the moment of death.
With hunting, the goal is to kill the target as cleanly as possible, preferably with a single bullet. Thatâs the Scenario A Iâm describing above.
If one were hunting an animal with the intent of killing it, then a trap, followed by a knife or bolt gun, would maximize the terror felt by the animal to be killed. Sure, one may be putting less lead out in the environment, but at the cost of putting the animal through⌠almost the most appalling experience of death possible, with the admitted exception of a poorly-aimed bullet or arrow, followed by a wounded flight through the woods and slowly bleeding out.
So⌠if oneâs absolute maximum goal is to reduce environmental lead, yes, that is one way to do it, but the moral implications of that method seem pretty rough.