Comment on Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College
PizzaMan@lemmy.world 1 year agoSwing states don’t get the only say
They effectively do.
a vote in an uncontested or lopsided race is still counted.
But they are effectively meaningless because California will always vote blue and Texas will always vote red. If you try to vote against your state’s pre-selected candidate you’re vote basically just gets tossed.
Actually it’s worse, since your population contribution actually ends up going towards electors that vote against what you voted for.
All you are complaining about is you want your state to feel special on election night.
No, I want all votes to be counted equally. I live in a swing state, and unless you live in a tighter swing state, my vote means more than yours ever will. That’s bullshit, and a fundamentally bad design.
My state shouldn’t be special. That’s the whole point of getting rid of the electoral college, to ensure all votes are counted equally regardless of origin of state.
jimbolauski@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Applying your logic to a popular vote, people’s votes won’t matter as the margin will be more than 100,000 their vote makes no difference. Is your goa tol make everyone’s vote not matter?
PizzaMan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
But each of those votes are counted the same, and I don’t want FPTP like you seem to think.
Instead I want STAR or approval voting. So that complaint doesn’t really apply because with both STAR and approval, each vote is counted equally, and give you more control over how your vote contributes to the final count.
jimbolauski@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Votes are counted equality in the electoral system, popular voting, ranking systems, or approval. Your perceived value of a vote in the swing states vs a vote in solid states is just that. The votes still count no matter which state they are from.
PizzaMan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No they aren’t, they are weighted by state, and if your state votes against you your vote essentially gets tossed out in favor of the candidate you voted against.
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They literally are not counted equally.
A red vote in a blue state gets ignored. A blue vote in a red state gets ignored. That is a terrible design.
And votes shouldn’t just all count, all of them should be counted equally, instead we get the vote of a