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tomalley8342@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

better than reading the damn article, here are the weasily corporate words directly from mr daan the founder 🤣

So adding all of this technology will certainly make it more easy to be used for either good or bad. And it will certainly become possible to build an OS that will be less hackable than your run of the mill Linux distro.

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just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
First, yes, he’s correct in talking about the SOFTWARE side of that, so if your anger is with this dude, you better just outlaw software, because anyone can choose to NOT do these things. That’s the entire point of open source. Make stupid decisions, and you have zero following.

Second, let me finish his thought for you:

But we will never enforce using any of these features in systemd itself. It will always be up to the distro to enable and configure the system to become an immutable monolith. And I certainly don’t think distributions like Fedora or Debian will ever go in that direction.

We don’t really have any control over what Microsoft decides to do with Secure Boot. If they decide at one point to make Secure Boot reject any Linux distribution and hardware vendors prevent enrolling user owned keys, we’re in just as much trouble as everyone else running Linux will be.

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- tomalley8342@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  He’s very CLEARLY illustrating his intent to prevent the very thing you’re shutting your pants about
  
  It will always be up to the distro
  
  We don’t really have any control over what Microsoft decides to do
  
  where is the prevention brother?
  
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  - just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Uhhhh…it’s open. Didn’t know anyone needed precautionary blocks in place or permission.
    
    What in the actual hell is happening in here. Who made you so fearful of everyone? Did somebody hurt you? WHO DID IT???
    
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    tomalley8342@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    We know from systemd that these people are willing to use corporate resources to snuff out grassroots alternatives to grow their market share, and we know from the sorry state of boot chains on basically every device that isn’t x86 UEFI that corporations are salivating at the idea of implementing trusted computing at the expense of user freedoms, and we know know from the above quotes that the best assurance the founders of this companies have is “we just provide the tools, it’s up to the corporations to decide how to use it, teehee!” The only mystery here is people like you here who see all this and think “surely things will go different this time. these are good boys”.
    
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