Comment on High IQ men tend to be less conservative than their average peers, study finds
Juice@midwest.social 2 days ago
This study is weird.
First the definitions of liberal and socialism are suspect. “Equivalence of outcome”? What socialist believes that everyone should be the exact same? Thats the opposite of socialism that’s what dumb conservatives say it is, but thats not what it is.
Liberalism is the belief in acceptance and human rights come from private property. I know thats not how a lot of liberals consider themselves, more and more liberals are witnessing the eradication of human rights so that the capitalist class can own everything, and want to keep the human rights without the oppression and hate that comes with capitalist exploitation. But essentially the ideal liberal society is like a super-social democracy, and looking at a lot of European social democracies, the citizens dont really know or care how they get it.
Centrism is considered the most nuanced view. This is ridiculous. Being apolitical is not nuance, it is ignorance. I get a lot of people dont want to engage with politics all the time, I get it. I engage with politics all the time and I dont really want to either. Another personal preference would be that I dont want to use calendars. But not using calendars doesn’t give me a more nuanced concept of time management. I have to engage with it if I wanna get things done. If anything, people who have a deep practical knowledge of politics have a more nuanced views, even conservatives. As a leftist I have read history books written by some conservatives, and while I usually disagree with their conclusions, they can provide great and unique insights into what actually happened, from which I can make my own conclusions. On the other end, I find leftists who are politically active are extremely concerned with facts and nuance, and actively resist steering a narrative toward this or that predetermined conclusion.
Deeper understanding of actual conditions leads to better ability to affect change. Spinning every event or phenomena into polemical basis to support my own position isnt nuance, however it may be a sign of intelligence itself since rhetoric is like its own skill, even talent. But regardless, this is sectarianism and sectarianism is not a viable political strategy for engaging with the masses. Most leftists will argue with you of you call them sectarian, even if they plainly are.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Is it still as racist as it was originally? Because IIRC it was largely racist because of poverty among people of color and the fact that people who’d had less nutrition growing up, would score worse. But I could be wrong of course, that’s why I’m genuinely asking.
I’m inclined to agree with you there. Of course one thing to consider is that even in a group of completely selfish people, the more intelligent ones may have a better understanding of how their own lives could be bettered by policies that elevate everyone, whereas the less intelligent ones are more likely to fall prey to conservative propaganda.
Juice@midwest.social 2 days ago
Is capitalism still creating wealth inequality based on racial discrimination? Our prisons, which are disproportionately BIPOC would say so, as well as just about any other metric. While there is more diversity among the middle class than there once was, in the USA at least, structural racism is still quite urgent and prescient.
Also historically IQ has been as much a test of cultural whiteness as intelligence, so it isn’t just that people who are poor have less access to quality education, but racial poverty is concentrated and cultural as well as economic. So a naturally intelligent person with a non-white cultural upbringing, would also test lower on an IQ test.
Has IQ changed qualitatively over the last say 50 years? How much has the testing been adapted to suit cultural differences? I’m open to being wrong but I doubt it.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
So out of curiosity I went and took a modern test that someone on reddit said is supposed to have a very good reliability rating (not that that says much). Yup, there were still some cultural/knowledge questions (“Which of these is a church most likely to have”), not just general problem solving and such.
Most importantly though I passed the test of not paying 15$ for getting the final result and instead googled what the percentile was equivalent to as it said I scored higher than X out of 1000 people. Perhaps if I was a white American I’d have scored a tiny bit higher, but honestly I’m very happy with the score I got, IF the test is accurate at all.