Comment on The creator of systemd wants your entire system validated by SecureBoot

• baronvonj@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I was referring to this

  If this technology is successful, the end result could be that we would see our Linux laptops one day being as locked down as an Iphone or Android device.

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  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    What if the thing that you want is to have SecureBoot-enforced hardware attestation?

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    • baronvonj@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What if it was just an off the cuff joke?

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      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        This is too many dependent probabilities

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That would be beneficial to users as well. I’m not understanding the downside here.

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    • deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Only being able to install “allowed” apps is not great for freedom.

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      • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Not even how that works FFS. You’re not the target audience here.

        Y’all really need to start reading more about things before jumping to ridiculously uninformed conclusions and making comments. My gosh.

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    • baronvonj@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I guess you’re not thinking of “locked down” in terms of independent developers finding the iOS and Android “play by our rules and be distributed thru our app store or we’ll make it hard for users to run your software” to be a barrier to distribution.

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      • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Bruh…that’s not even the point of the company or what he’s talking about. You’re being paranoid, first off.

        Second, you want secure devices? You can’t have that right now with Linux very easily. There is no chain of trust coming from the hardware aside from TPM, which is kind of a joke. This guy wants to make a standard way of certifying a chain of trust which would allow an ecosystem of devices to maintain some semblance of trust amongst itself and other devices. This would make things like networks, edge devices, forward deployed hardware, and running sensitive data in less than secure locations more secure.

        Last, if you’re going to be paranoid, at least educate yourself on the subject. Not a single person who is even vaguely familiar with what this entails is thinking “Oh they’re going to lock all our devices rawrawrawr”. That’s just ridiculous. That could happen now, but…you seeing that out in the components world anywhere? Absolutely not. Because it’s no desirable, and that’s NOT WHAT HES EVEN TALKING ABOUT.

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