I’m sorry, are you a disabled person? Or did you forget the point you guys were trying to make?
Rhodesia changed its government and name.
South Africa changed its government.
No third parties partitioned the lands of either.
Your examples are advocating for my approach of punishing the leadership and giving the people a fresh start.
LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
Damn, I can really feel how tempted you were to use the r-slur there. Not surprising that a zionist and a colonialist would also be an ableist.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 6 days ago
You do that a lot, don’t you? Imagine things about people you disagree with and then assume they’re true.
I’m imagining third parties? You just stated that Palestinians are Israelis, mate. To the Israelis (and their nation), Palestinians are the third party (and the other way around).
You really are having trouble grasping simple concepts.
Hamas’ stated eradication of Israel = genocide.
The removal of Israel’s government, reform, security guarantees towards Palestine = not genocide.
I thought this was relatively simple to get.
LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
I don’t need to imagine, you called me “a disabled person” as an insult. That’s exactly as bad as using the r-slur because it’s literally the same thing.
Shut up, lmao. I’m tired of dealing with your colonizer ignorance. Several people have explained to you several times how and why you are wrong and it’s clear that your racist condescending European colonial attitude makes it impossible for you to actually grasp the reality of colonialism and therefore the reality of “Israel”.
Go read the 2017 charter instead of assuming the people you think are below you match the caricature you have of them in your head.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 6 days ago
I asked you as a hypothetical. It was meant to verify the cause for your gross historical ignorance and genocidal tendencies.
Yeah, by ignoring archaeological and historical evidence. Cheers for that. I’ll stick to facts, not fundamentalist faith.
“Both peoples have the right to the land their ancestors come from” - such colonialism, much condescension! Wow!
One people living in an area and getting a country: all good.
Another people living in an area and getting a country: COLONIALISM!
Are you hearing yourself?
The two situations are MASSIVELY different.
Whites had no business being in SA in the first place, especially as colonisers.
Whereas Jews/Israelites lived in the Palestine Region for at least 2600 years before Israel and Palestine became a thing.
OK, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and let you explain it to me.
Let’s even ignore the fact that Hamas keeps flinging dumb rockets at Israel non-stop. Let’s even pretend that the recent attack was “an inside job” or something.
How are they going to “restore the lands of Palestine”, defined as “everything between Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea” without literally making Israel non-existent, thus eradicating it?