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• LeninWeave@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m sorry, are you a disabled person? Or did you forget the point you guys were trying to make?

  Damn, I can really feel how tempted you were to use the r-slur there. Not surprising that a zionist and a colonialist would also be an ableist.

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  • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Damn, I can really feel how tempted you were to use the r-slur there. Not surprising that a zionist and a colonialist would also be an ableist.

    You do that a lot, don’t you? Imagine things about people you disagree with and then assume they’re true.

    My examples are advocating for decolonization done by the people there (Palestinians). You’re the one imagining “third parties”.

    I’m imagining third parties? You just stated that Palestinians are Israelis, mate. To the Israelis (and their nation), Palestinians are the third party (and the other way around).

    You really are having trouble grasping simple concepts.

    Hamas’ stated eradication of Israel = genocide.

    The removal of Israel’s government, reform, security guarantees towards Palestine = not genocide.

    I thought this was relatively simple to get.

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    • LeninWeave@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You do that a lot, don’t you? Imagine things about people you disagree with and then assume they’re true.

      I don’t need to imagine, you called me “a disabled person” as an insult. That’s exactly as bad as using the r-slur because it’s literally the same thing.

      I’m imagining third parties? You just stated that Palestinians are Israelis, mate. To the Israelis (and their nation), Palestinians are the third party (and the other way around).

      Shut up, lmao. I’m tired of dealing with your colonizer ignorance. Several people have explained to you several times how and why you are wrong and it’s clear that your racist condescending European colonial attitude makes it impossible for you to actually grasp the reality of colonialism and therefore the reality of “Israel”.

      Hamas’ stated eradication of Israel = genocide.

      Go read the 2017 charter instead of assuming the people you think are below you match the caricature you have of them in your head.

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      • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t need to imagine, you called me “a disabled person” as an insult

        I asked you as a hypothetical. It was meant to verify the cause for your gross historical ignorance and genocidal tendencies.

        Several people have explained to you several times how and why you are wrong

        Yeah, by ignoring archaeological and historical evidence. Cheers for that. I’ll stick to facts, not fundamentalist faith.

        your racist condescending European colonial attitude

        “Both peoples have the right to the land their ancestors come from” - such colonialism, much condescension! Wow!

        it impossible for you to actually grasp the reality of colonialism and therefore the reality of “Israel”.

        One people living in an area and getting a country: all good.

        Another people living in an area and getting a country: COLONIALISM!

        Are you hearing yourself?

        40 years ago you would have been crying about how “the Blacks” want to commit genocide against the white South Africans and denying that they were colonizers too

        the two situations are the same but everyone today knows that the South African example would be obviously racist.

        The two situations are MASSIVELY different.

        Whites had no business being in SA in the first place, especially as colonisers.

        Whereas Jews/Israelites lived in the Palestine Region for at least 2600 years before Israel and Palestine became a thing.

        Go read the 2017 charter instead of assuming the people you think are below you match the caricature you have of them in your head.

        OK, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and let you explain it to me.

        Let’s even ignore the fact that Hamas keeps flinging dumb rockets at Israel non-stop. Let’s even pretend that the recent attack was “an inside job” or something.

        How are they going to “restore the lands of Palestine”, defined as “everything between Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea” without literally making Israel non-existent, thus eradicating it?

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