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Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

You mean the colony established over the legitimate Palestinian State?

Palestinian State didn’t exist before the very same resolution that created Israel. It was the Palestinian Region of the Ottoman Empire. It’s like calling people living in the Alps “Alpians” and stating that “the French and the Swiss colonised the legitimate Alpian State”.
Israelites, just like Palestinians, have a historical claim to that territory. If you firmly believe that they should not have any part of it - where would you place them?

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agentant@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
The Palestinian people are a people who have lived in that region for hundreds of years, just because they were previously occupied by Ottomans doesn’t mean there’s no material basis for the nation of Palestine being present in the region. The Jews like the Roma are a stateless nation and we do not need a state. Further, Jews have remained present in Palestine and have peacefully coexisted with them, there’s no reason to believe they wouldn’t be represented under a Palestinian state. Palestinians themselves, were decedents of the Ancient Israelites who converted to Islam. Aggression between the two groups only started when a genocidal settler colony began using our name, the Jewish People, to justify their actions.

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- Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  The Palestinian people are a people who have lived in that region for hundreds of years, just because they were previously occupied by Ottomans doesn’t mean there’s no material basis for the nation of Palestine being present in the region.
  
  So, exactly like Israelites? Good to see that you actually agree with them having a right to a nation state!
  
  The Jews like the Roma are a stateless nation
  
  Yeah, just like Palestinians were, up until around 1947. 1918 if you count Mandatory Palestine.
  
  Further, Jews have remained present in Palestine and have peacefully coexisted with them, there’s no reason to believe they wouldn’t be represented under a Palestinian state
  
  Well, if you ignore all historical data that has very clearly shown Jews and Israelites being persecuted in the region, which was the region for them leaving it in large enough numbers to be considered a stateless nation like the Roma - yeah, then you’re absolutely correct.
  
  Aggression between the two groups only started when a genocidal settler colony began using our name, the Jewish People, to justify their actions.
  
  Again, you’d be correct if you ignore the entirety of the history of the region. The persecution of Israelites started around 700 BCE, mate.
  
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  - agentant@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I really don’t need some kkkrakkker ass fucking Finn to lecture me about my own people’s history just so they can perpetrate the antisemitic correlation of my people to a fucking genocide. So back to Sieg Heiling the statue of Simo The Jew Slayer erected in your town plaza because your people never forgave the Soviets for beating them and their nazi allies in the Second World War.
    
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    Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    You’re a fundamentalist extremist and a hateful human. Be better.
    
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