Israel declaration of independence mention Herzl as the spiritual father of the state. Herzl advocated for ethnic cleansing
Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895
The property owners will come over to our side. According to my conception, the majority of the local population will have to be transferred elsewhere.
We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country. - Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895
Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly - Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895
After the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will **abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine ** partition might be only a temporary arrangement for the next twenty to twenty-five years - Chaim Weizmann 1st President of Israel
You can’t claim to be anti genocide and settler colonialism if you don’t think Zionism is a problem
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That’s guilt by association. It’s a fallacy. Lots of national leaders and founders were racists and horrible people in various factors. That doesn’t mean the states necessarily were or are or forever will be.
I don’t claim to be anything. You are making all the claims here about who is what. Where I stand agonizing about genocide and dividing everyone up into pro and anti is simply stupid. My understanding is that the current Israeli government and its hardliner supporters are are engaged in a unnecessary escalated conflict, largely motivated by their own beliefs. However, that has not always been the case and various parties in the government do not agree. The conflict in Gaza is part of a much larger history that goes back centuries and isn’t ‘Zionism’.
But I’m interested in history and reality, not moralizing catchphrases and moral grandstanding over issues for which my views have zero political relevance or impact. I’m not a citizen of the state of Israel.
mrdown@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Israel ideology was always Zionism and their policies was always the publicity of settler colonialism so until Israel stop acting like Nazis and end occupation I can’t support that state and anybody who whitewash it.
Again I said that feddit mods are allowing people defending the ideology and not just people talking about it from an historical standpoint
The history of the colonization of Palestine by zionists started in 1948 and not the bullshit of the conflict being several centuries old like Trump try to portray . Palestinians didn’t have a problem with jews they has a problem with the zionists plan to occupy them
This comes from an israeli source
In 1884 the first Yemenites settled in Silwan and for 45 years lived peacefully and on very good terms with their Arab neighbors. It seemed that the people of Silwan, which was known to be a poor village, found common ground with the poor Jewish Yemenites that lived among them.
Despite the attempt to depict the 1929 Arab Riot as a violent incident against the Jews in Silwan, it is clear that it was not the case. From a letter of gratitude that the Yemenite Jews sent to their Arab neighbors, we can learn about the devotion and benevolence that the Arabs have shown towards the Yemenites by undauntedly protecting them, and also about the amity and good neighborly relations that prevailed between the two communities.
emekshaveh.org/en/yemenites/