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• agentant@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  You mean the colony established over the legitimate Palestinian State? This is like saying it’s bad to fight for the abolition of the Reichskommissariats.

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  • LeninWeave@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    This is like saying it’s bad to fight for the abolition of the Reichskommissariats.

    They’re a genocide defender from the Finnish instance, they might actually think that.

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I love how you guys call me a “genocide defender” after I’ve stated so many times that Netanyahu and everybody responsible for the genocide should be tried and eliminated. :D

      You’re exactly like MAGA - a fundamentalist who believes that if someone isn’t 100% committed to ALL tenets of your cause, they’re a traitor and an enemy. This tribalism is pathetic and a cancer on our society.

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      • agentant@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Ok but you don’t reject the Israeli State. Which was founded on a genocide. This is like saying you’re anti-genocide but you support the US’s right to exist.

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      • LeninWeave@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I love how you guys call me a “genocide defender” after I’ve stated so many times that Netanyahu and everybody responsible for the genocide should be tried and eliminated. :D

        You think this is because of Netanyahu and that this genocide is a recent thing? This genocide is inherent to the state of “Israel”, which is a settler colony. If you believe “Israel” should exist, you are a genocide defender.

        You’re exactly like MAGA - a fundamentalist who believes that if someone isn’t 100% committed to ALL tenets of your cause, they’re a traitor and an enemy. This tribalism is pathetic and a cancer on our society.

        No, I just think people who think colonialism is acceptable are enemies. Because they are.

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      • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        You are defending genocide; you are a genocide defender.

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  • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    You mean the colony established over the legitimate Palestinian State?

    1. Palestinian State didn’t exist before the very same resolution that created Israel. It was the Palestinian Region of the Ottoman Empire. It’s like calling people living in the Alps “Alpians” and stating that “the French and the Swiss colonised the legitimate Alpian State”.
    2. Israelites, just like Palestinians, have a historical claim to that territory. If you firmly believe that they should not have any part of it - where would you place them?

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    • agentant@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      The Palestinian people are a people who have lived in that region for hundreds of years, just because they were previously occupied by Ottomans doesn’t mean there’s no material basis for the nation of Palestine being present in the region. The Jews like the Roma are a stateless nation and we do not need a state. Further, Jews have remained present in Palestine and have peacefully coexisted with them, there’s no reason to believe they wouldn’t be represented under a Palestinian state. Palestinians themselves, were decedents of the Ancient Israelites who converted to Islam. Aggression between the two groups only started when a genocidal settler colony began using our name, the Jewish People, to justify their actions.

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      • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        The Palestinian people are a people who have lived in that region for hundreds of years, just because they were previously occupied by Ottomans doesn’t mean there’s no material basis for the nation of Palestine being present in the region.

        So, exactly like Israelites? Good to see that you actually agree with them having a right to a nation state!

        The Jews like the Roma are a stateless nation

        1. Yeah, just like Palestinians were, up until around 1947. 1918 if you count Mandatory Palestine.

        Further, Jews have remained present in Palestine and have peacefully coexisted with them, there’s no reason to believe they wouldn’t be represented under a Palestinian state

        Well, if you ignore all historical data that has very clearly shown Jews and Israelites being persecuted in the region, which was the region for them leaving it in large enough numbers to be considered a stateless nation like the Roma - yeah, then you’re absolutely correct.

        Aggression between the two groups only started when a genocidal settler colony began using our name, the Jewish People, to justify their actions.

        Again, you’d be correct if you ignore the entirety of the history of the region. The persecution of Israelites started around 700 BCE, mate.

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