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• Riverside@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Russia is, in fact, not enacting genocide on Ukrainians. It’s carrying out an invasion which we can condemn, but calling every conflict a genocide is actually a form of genocide denial, because it minimizes the horrors of actual genocides.

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  • Loco_Mex@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Russia is, in fact, enacting genocide in Ukraine.

    What Russia is doing:

    Tens of thousands of children are being abducted, stripped of their identity, and taught to hate their homeland
    thewalrus.ca/ukrainian-children/

    Definition of Genocide:

    Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
    www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

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    • Riverside@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The source for the tens of thousands of Ukrainian children being abducted is, unsurprisingly, the Ukrainian government. The Russian government makes claims about Ethnic Russians being cleansed in Donbas and I don’t take those accusations as true either, until confirmed by independent journalistic reports. You’d do well to do a more critical analysis of wartime propaganda by countries involved in wars.

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      • Loco_Mex@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The ICC has an arrest warrant on Putin for these abductions.

        Putin has used a presidential decree to streamline the process of Ukrainian children being made Russian.

        Here’s your Independent Journalistic Report:

        “It happens, for example, that they go with their parents from the occupied territories through Russia to some third countries. Russians can detain parents, arrest, put them in prison, just take their child to their boarding school. Like, go where you wanted, but your child will stay with us. There are cases when Russians enter a house somewhere in the occupied territory, the child tells them that he lives with his mother, who just went to the store or for water, but they take this child, actually kidnap him, and he finds himself in Russia. I am not talking about the so-called evacuation of children’s boarding institutions from the occupied territories to Russia - this is a separate pain, "says Daria Kasyanova.

        But sure, keep telling the world it’s only Ukrainian propaganda.

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      • CybranM@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “The source for the crime is, unsurprisingly, the victim, the criminal is denying any wrongdoing” hmmm

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• no_name_dev_from_hell@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  In no way shape or form Ukraine is a genocide. By using that term for both Palestine and Ukraine you are just demeaning the word, and actually helping the propaganda against Palestine.

  Ukraine is defending its sovereignty, and it is experiencing a national aggression by Russia, but what Israel is doing to Gaza is in a different sphere.

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  • Loco_Mex@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What Russia is doing:

    Tens of thousands of children are being abducted, stripped of their identity, and taught to hate their homeland
    thewalrus.ca/ukrainian-children/

    Definition of Genocide:

    Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
    www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

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